Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

[Twodogs]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

Agreed. Malthouse gets nothing out of footy that doesn't benefit Malthouse. His segment was a complete waste of bandwidth.

Good point TD on Wheels. He would have been a fantastic interview subject given our history - he could have touched on the influence of Ron James on the playing group in 1990 and also the resurgence of our team in the early 90's. Maybe he and Peter Gordon aren't on speaking terms? Plough's era was primarily touched on by Johnno, Granty and Bubba.

Ross Oakley being there was pure theatre and no substance - he should have been questioned on the massive growth corridor in the west that hindsight suggests he massively underestimated in the desire for club rationalisation. Dogs and Saints potentially merging was an interesting aside.

You might be right about Gordon and Wheeler not being on good terms (I have no idea whether they have made up but I have heard Gordon say recently that if he had that time again he would have made a different decision) but I think Wheeler is the sort of bloke who would put club first and foremost over any disagreement he was having with someone in it. They probably didn't think to ask him or Wheels is contracted to someone else maybe?

[Axe Man]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

I thought this was the most stupid thing I heard. How the hell does merging a Western Suburb side with a South Eastern suburb side make sense. The AFL never fails to amuse me.

Was it Smorgo or Gordon that said it was a logical merger? Their definition of logical differs somewhat from mine!

[Bornadog]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

Was it Smorgo or Gordon that said it was a logical merger? Their definition of logical differs somewhat from mine!

Smorgo.

Yes thank you, I couldn't remember the words used - LOGICAL - wow.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

Enjoyed the show , but gotta say was surprised neither Wallace nor Wheeler or even Rocket got those questions mick got.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

I've got my copy and will be watching it tonight. Should I get the tissue box out?

[always right]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

Really enjoyed it but thought the editing was a little clunky.

Some observations;
- Malthouse's inclusion added little although I don't know what else he may have said that wasn't included.
- Liked Oakley's inclusion for is theatre and at least he didn't use his time to justify his decision.
- Sheahan/Bernie Lee piece seemed a little self indulgent.
- Surprised the following weren't included; Shultz, Libba Snr, JJ, Bont. May have also been nice to hear from Hawkins and Wheeler.
- Strange ending featuring the Footscray mayor.
- Thought more may have been featured of the prelim final.
- Loved hearing Bevo's thoughts on GF strategy and his favourite moment (Roughy's mark)
- Morris and both Boyds spoke really well. Picken and Wood fine but predictable.

Would have loved the traditional format where selected players watched the GF and provided running commentary. Still really enjoyable.

[Topdog]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Z5l1PLGWY

[Webby]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

Sheesh. I missed the first airing of the show, but have it booked for IQ recording on its next airing. Bit shocked about this "logical" merger with the 'Aints stuff. They're the polar opposite side of the bay and represent a growth corridor on the exact opposite side of the city to us.

If we were to ever merge (and I stress IF - as a hypothetical exercise), the logical first options would be Norf, Geelong or Melbourne. Norf due to geography, demographics, colours and history (the very fact we were admitted simultaneously into the comp in 1925 is the reason we've remained small from a supporter base perspective over the years. It was akin to putting two teams in Tassie simultaneously!)

Geelong because eventually the western suburbs and Greater Geelong will eventually merge into one urban hub. Therefore a merged entity could have represented that 'western' hub and, in fact, western Victoria.

Or finally Melbourne due to colours and the fact that Melbourne have become nomadic due to being geographically squeezed out of the inner suburbs, training at the Junction Oval, sort of based at Casey and sort of based on Collingwood's doorstep in the inner city. We'd have provided solid territory for them. Only issue is the demographic of their blue-blood supporter base.

However, I stress again that this is a hypothetical. The best option in the longer term was always for FFC to remain its own entity and to grow into our own growing corridor in the west - which is going pretty well for us now!

I just can't fathom why St Kilda would ever have been in the discussion!

[AndrewP6]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

I thoroughly enjoyed all aspects of it. Disappointed in Mick Malthouse as well. When Mike asked him did he get anything out of the doggies winning the flag, or words to that effect, he dodged the question and never answered it.

So you didn't enjoy all aspects then?

[AndrewP6]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

Enjoyed this, but a few questions: Why MM, and not Wheels, Wallet, or Eade?
- The St Bede's interviews, fine, but then nothing from former greats like Dougie, or Schultz...
- The info from Bevo on his thoughts during the GF were great.
Good to see and hear PG and Smorgo together, and that it was PG's insistence that Smorgo be on the ground after the GF.

[Twodogs]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

So you didn't enjoy all aspects then?

Maybe B4L enjoyed being disapointed by MM?

[MrMahatma]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

What happened mid 2014 between Macca and the squad?

[comrade]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

I could listen to Bevo talking strategy and tactics for days.

[Topdog]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

What happened mid 2014 between Macca and the squad?

Sounds like he became too much of a dictator at the time and was just incredibly harsh and they didn't react well. At least thats what I took from the interview.

[1eyedog]

Re: Western Bulldogs: Against All Odds - Open Mike - March 21 2017

Would we have given Bevo the nod if it wasn't Macca he was replacing?

I'm just pondering Gordo's comment about needing a person who could connect with the players again and whether, if we were replacing a coach because of poor on-field form rather than a socio-cultural downturn, Bevo would have been our man.