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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7578

    New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

    New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

    THE new Gold Coast team will have access to 12 uncontracted players before it enters the competition and will have two opportunities to, in effect, "gut" a very strong 2010 draft, under the AFL's proposal for establishing the 17th team.

    Under the AFL's proposed "list establishment" document for the Gold Coast and Western Sydney teams, the new Queensland club will be given access to a staggering 10 elite 17-year-olds — from all over the country — in next year's draft, and Western Sydney will be given the same deal in 2010.

    The AFL yesterday confirmed that it was raising the draft age to 18 years (January 1 to December 31) for the 2009 draft — a decision that will dramatically improve the quality of the 2010 draft, in which the Gold Coast is slated to have picks 1-5, 14, 15, 24 and 41.

    The Gold Coast team will be given access to the cream of the players who missed out on the 2009 national draft — a substantial group of players, according to the clubs — because their 18th birthdays fell between January 1 and April 30, 2010.

    Numerically, that represents a third of what would have been the new player pool for 2009.

    If the Gold Coast team is unable to either persuade those teenagers to sign with them in 2009, it will be able to draft many of them the following year, when it holds picks 1-5, 14, 15, 24 and 41.

    An almost identical set of rules — including the 10 17-year-olds — is proposed for Western Sydney in 2010-2011. It would have picks 1-5, 15, 16 (due to the extra club), 25 and 42.

    Under the proposal, which several clubs have seen:

    ■The Gold Coast will be given a 10% higher salary cap for its first five years, with Western Sydney given an additional 20% — similar to the Swans — for its first five seasons. The Brisbane Lions had a 10% allowance at one stage, which was removed after pressure from Melbourne clubs following their run of three premierships.

    ■Both clubs will be given the opportunity to sign up to 10 uncontracted players before they enter the competition, plus they will have picks one and two in the pre-season draft — in practice, that means they could each snare a dozen uncontracted players.

    ■The Gold Coast will begin warehousing the best Queensland talent at the end of 2008, when it will be allowed to list 15 Queenslanders from outside of the draft. It is presumed that these players will play in the TAC Cup competition with a team that could be coached by Michael Voss, the favourite to coach the 17th club.

    ■The Gold Coast club will also be given three years in which to remove the best Queensland talent from the system. After its 2008 selection of Queenslanders, it will be allowed the pick of the Sunshine State again in 2009 (15 players) and five from its home state plus five from the Northern Territory in 2010.

    While many clubs can see opportunities for trading with the Gold Coast and Western Sydney and are formulating five-year plans to deal with the radically changed landscape, there is acceptance that the expansion rules will benefit some clubs with stronger young lists and damage others.
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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #2
    Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

    The first thing that come to me was how old are Mitchell Wallis and Tom Liberatore and will they be good enough to play AFL. Im guessing by 2010, they will be eligible to nominate which would be very handy as alot of the talent will be taken by the 2 new franchises.

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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10114

      #3
      Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

      By the looks of how it's going to be set up, these teams may be able to become pretty damn competitive in the first 3 years if all goes smoothly.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #4
        Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

        In 1987 WC got a heap of local kids at once and won premierships in 92 & 94, their 6th and 8th seasons.

        In 1990 Adelaide got a heap of local kids at once and won premierships in 97 & 98, their 7th & 8th seasons.

        In 96 Port got a heap of local kids at once and won the premiership in 2004, their 8th season (after choking the previous year or two).


        Anyone want to get on for a Gold Coast premiership around 2017?

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        • westdog54
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6686

          #5
          Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          In 1987 WC got a heap of local kids at once and won premierships in 92 & 94, their 6th and 8th seasons.

          In 1990 Adelaide got a heap of local kids at once and won premierships in 97 & 98, their 7th & 8th seasons.

          In 96 Port got a heap of local kids at once and won the premiership in 2004, their 8th season (after choking the previous year or two).


          Anyone want to get on for a Gold Coast premiership around 2017?
          How did the Bears go with their early recruiting? Did they get a similar deal to the Eagles? I know the talent pool would have been nowhere near as deep.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

            I like how they drafting all these rules for the Gold Coast/West Sydney when neither have got a stadium yet, a supporter base or any idea how they will work.

            Cart before the horse stuff.

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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11148

              #7
              Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              In 1987 WC got a heap of local kids at once and won premierships in 92 & 94, their 6th and 8th seasons.

              In 1990 Adelaide got a heap of local kids at once and won premierships in 97 & 98, their 7th & 8th seasons.

              In 96 Port got a heap of local kids at once and won the premiership in 2004, their 8th season (after choking the previous year or two).


              Anyone want to get on for a Gold Coast premiership around 2017?
              And Freo.....the less said, the better. They also got a stack of local talent but urinated it down the drain. After 6-8 seasons they were collecting priority picks. Terrible club.
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #8
                Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                Originally posted by westdog54
                How did the Bears go with their early recruiting? Did they get a similar deal to the Eagles? I know the talent pool would have been nowhere near as deep.
                Everyone had to give the Bears the worst player they had on their list.

                It took a while but they did get to pick any Queenslanders they wanted - Voss, Akermanis, Keating.

                This team seems to be getting the best of everything - top draft picks, anyone they can pinch from other clubs and all the Queenslander and Territorians.

                Very generous I would have thought.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                  Best of everything only because the AFL know neither team will have a soul.
                  No chance of hard earned success as these 2 team have to good straight away as no one will go.

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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    #10
                    Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                    I was speaking to our NSW branch mamanger today. He is actively campagning his local council to get the AFL posts removed from his local park.

                    "They never get used and we wouldn't want to encourage them anyway".

                    This is the kind of mindset the AFL will never beat.


                    It will take the AFL 30 years of massive subsidies for West Sydney to even stand a chance.


                    The new club should be known as Demetriou's Follies.

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11840

                      #11
                      Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                      Originally posted by Desipura
                      The first thing that come to me was how old are Mitchell Wallis and Tom Liberatore and will they be good enough to play AFL. Im guessing by 2010, they will be eligible to nominate which would be very handy as alot of the talent will be taken by the 2 new franchises.
                      The one in U-16's? My mate played his team and asked if he's good. He said he's awesome. I asked if he's AFL good. He said no way.

                      Don't take it as gospel though. Guys like Cal Ward wasn't even playing Jets at that age i think so anything can happen. But don't get too excited.
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #12
                        Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        The first thing that come to me was how old are Mitchell Wallis and Tom Liberatore and will they be good enough to play AFL. Im guessing by 2010, they will be eligible to nominate which would be very handy as alot of the talent will be taken by the 2 new franchises.
                        Both have just been named in the Vic Metro U16 team.

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14140

                          #13
                          Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                          Im sure the AFL will come up with some new rule to stop us getting them and Ayce Cordy when they see its us that might benefit.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            #14
                            Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                            Back on topic.

                            Here's my way of getting players to the new clubs.


                            1. Give them every 2nd pick in the national draft (1,3,5,7,9 etc)
                            2. Tell them to trade


                            They can't simply offer crap picks because the new "all in the national draft" rule means someone else will pick that player up - they must offer reasonable picks.

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                            • westdog54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6686

                              #15
                              Re: New teams to get 12 players and draft bonus

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              I was speaking to our NSW branch mamanger today. He is actively campagning his local council to get the AFL posts removed from his local park.

                              "They never get used and we wouldn't want to encourage them anyway".

                              This is the kind of mindset the AFL will never beat.


                              It will take the AFL 30 years of massive subsidies for West Sydney to even stand a chance.


                              The new club should be known as Demetriou's Follies.
                              Having in-laws in Sydney's west I can vouch for this type of attitude towards Australian Rules Football in the city in general.

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