Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13235

    Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

    Originally posted by Mantis
    So if St.Kilda structure up with Bruce (197), McCartin (194) & Membrey (188) do we go with Adams (192), Morris (190) & Wood (187) or do we need to add a Cordy or Roberts to the mix?
    I don't think we bring in Cordy, not if Jake comes back in and Cloke plays. It kinda defeats the purpose of dropping Red / Cloke and then bringing in Cordy so Adams can go forward. I don't mind the above and think Adams and Morris can take Bruce and McCartin.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

      The Cloke v Redpath debate is so fascinating.

      Redpath has nearly doubled Clokes goals over their last 25 games. So if your looking at hitting the scoreboard you have to big Redpath.

      However, Clokes clearly takes the points in workrate and versatility.

      People I have spoken too are divided on who's in our best 22.

      In my opinion Clokes workrate and versatility have him ahead. However... If Roughy comes in and Boyd stays forward I would prefer Redpath.

      Will be interesting to see what the MC decide.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66700

        Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

        Originally posted by Jaytee
        The Cloke v Redpath debate is so fascinating.

        Redpath has nearly doubled Clokes goals over their last 25 games. So if your looking at hitting the scoreboard you have to big Redpath.

        However, Clokes clearly takes the points in workrate and versatility.

        People I have spoken too are divided on who's in our best 22.

        In my opinion Clokes workrate and versatility have him ahead. However... If Roughy comes in and Boyd stays forward I would prefer Redpath.

        Will be interesting to see what the MC decide.
        My problem with Redpath is he plays in bursts and seems to disappear for long periods. In his first game back against WC, he took 10 marks but was no where to be seen in the last quarter when we needed someone to kick a goal. Against Geelong, he was rarely sited.

        Cloke is dangerous right through a game and as you say is more versatile. I could be wrong, but I can't see Cloke being dropped.
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        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15445

          Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

          Originally posted by Jaytee
          The Cloke v Redpath debate is so fascinating.

          Redpath has nearly doubled Clokes goals over their last 25 games. So if your looking at hitting the scoreboard you have to big Redpath.

          However, Clokes clearly takes the points in workrate and versatility.

          People I have spoken too are divided on who's in our best 22.

          In my opinion Clokes workrate and versatility have him ahead. However... If Roughy comes in and Boyd stays forward I would prefer Redpath.

          Will be interesting to see what the MC decide.
          How did you come to this conclusion?

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

            Originally posted by Mantis
            How did you come to this conclusion?
            in terms of roles in the team, I'd have Boyd and Cloke fighting for the CHF/2nd ruck spot. Redpath as the lead out FF.

            I much prefer the set up of Redpath FF, Boyd CHF and Roughy ruck. Rather than Boyd FF, Cloke CHF and Roughy ruck.

            Cloke, outside of the Sydney game hasn't been that impressive. Redpath was quiet last week, but our midfield got absolutely slaughtered which didn't help. he still managed to hit the scoreboard twice. I expect him to keep improving each game he plays.

            I also feel like Redpath can get Brown/Carisle on the lead.

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10142

              Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

              Originally posted by Jaytee
              in terms of roles in the team, I'd have Boyd and Cloke fighting for the CHF/2nd ruck spot. Redpath as the lead out FF.

              I much prefer the set up of Redpath FF, Boyd CHF and Roughy ruck. Rather than Boyd FF, Cloke CHF and Roughy ruck.

              Cloke, outside of the Sydney game hasn't been that impressive. Redpath was quiet last week, but our midfield got absolutely slaughtered which didn't help. he still managed to hit the scoreboard twice. I expect him to keep improving each game he plays.

              I also feel like Redpath can get Brown/Carisle on the lead.
              Can we stop pretending that Redpath 'getting on the scoreboard' was in any way shape or form anything more than either extreme fortune, a result of the good work of others, or a combination of the two. Subtracting Jenkins Specials or Harry Taylor dropping an uncontested mark after badly beating Jack in a one-on-one, I'm willing to give him credit for 2 goals.

              Narrative aside, he's been really, really poor since coming back in, and has shown no indication that he can get anyone on the lead. He's settling for one-out wrestling contests, which have long been proven to not be his go. I hate Cloke too, but if Stringer is right to play then it's definitely Jack to go out.
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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9876

                Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                Apparently Cloke has been dropped

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                  [QUOTE=Happy Days;556237]Can we stop pretending that Redpath 'getting on the scoreboard' was in any way shape or form anything more than either extreme fortune, a result of the good work of others, or a combination of the two. Subtracting Jenkins Specials or Harry Taylor dropping an uncontested mark after badly beating Jack in a one

                  He has had some luck, yes. But cashing in on the good work of others is what a forward like him is in the side to do.

                  Redpath takes his opportunities. He's kicked 40 odd goals in his last 20 odd games. He missed that set shot late last week but he couldn't have struck it much better in what was a tricky end to goal from.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66700

                    Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                    Originally posted by G-Mo77
                    Apparently Cloke has been dropped
                    Is that from a reliable source?
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                      Mitch Cleary tweeted Cloke has been dropped.

                      Also on Brad Lynch's Instagram story he has a photo of English "young fella is getting a game"

                      Would have to assume that's AFL..

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14946

                        Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                        Huge news if true. Does that mean Roughy plays VFL for another week?
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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9876

                          Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Is that from a reliable source?
                          Yeah Mitch Cleary as Jaytee said.

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                          • Doc26
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3087

                            Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                            Originally posted by Jaytee
                            Mitch Cleary tweeted Cloke has been dropped.

                            Also on Brad Lynch's Instagram story he has a photo of English "young fella is getting a game"

                            Would have to assume that's AFL..
                            Great news if true. Can see him taking his chance and not looking back.

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                            • G-Mo77
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9876

                              Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                              Originally posted by Jaytee
                              Mitch Cleary tweeted Cloke has been dropped.

                              Also on Brad Lynch's Instagram story he has a photo of English "young fella is getting a game"

                              Would have to assume that's AFL..
                              This one.

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13235

                                Re: Match Committee: Round 10 vs St Kilda

                                Originally posted by Jaytee
                                Mitch Cleary tweeted Cloke has been dropped.

                                Also on Brad Lynch's Instagram story he has a photo of English "young fella is getting a game"

                                Would have to assume that's AFL..
                                Massive news. Love this guy can't wait to see him develop.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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