Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

[lemmon]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Out- Boyd, Cloke, English, Suckling, Adams

In- Morris, T Boyd, Honeychurch, Zaine, Libba

We haven't been tough enough this year and Sydney stood over us, so lets actually address it at selection.

Honey, Cordy, Libba and Morris will all bring that in different ways. Really sick of hearing "we're the hunted". The Hawks were the hunted for 4 years and they matched that with physicality.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Last year when the side was down on numbers we packed it with contested ball types. The side wasn't balanced but it set a barometer. Do we go down that path again?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Out- Boyd, Cloke, English, Suckling, Adams

In- Morris, T Boyd, Honeychurch, Zaine, Libba

We haven't been tough enough this year and Sydney stood over us, so lets actually address it at selection.

Honey, Cordy, Libba and Morris will all bring that in different ways. Really sick of hearing "we're the hunted". The Hawks were the hunted for 4 years and they matched that with physicality.

Not just matched it, they went from already unsociable footy to down right pricks that intimidated most teams. Mitchell, Lewis, Hodge etc relished in it, being free kicks, fines or suspensions. They still hunted, from little dirty things (Mitchell giving blokes corkies, or verbal like the 'jab-jab' incident), to frequent late hard hits (Hodge) or suspendable hits (Lewis often). They never, ever let anyone intimidate them as a team, or stood for anyone of their teammates coping it. No one hunted them really successfully in the cut throat games, from the 2012 GF until we jumped them last year.

Thursday was just confusing. When North tried to do it last year, primarily at Bonts, the team and player did the exact opposite. I thought it would fire us up as a group, but credit to them, they successfully psyched us out.

[GVGjr]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Last year when the side was down on numbers we packed it with contested ball types. The side wasn't balanced but it set a barometer. Do we go down that path again?

I think we had a bit more depth last year in that regard but I think there is some merit in the suggestion.
Ideally that mean Wallis and Liberatore leading the way.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

When you're struggling to click, I think you go back to essentials. Our defence is so unclean with their hands. I am picking defenders who can either defend or offer us run. Filling out the side with mid/fwds who can apply defensive pressure.

B: Wood, Roberts, Williams
HB: JJ, Morris, Hunter
C: Daniel, Macrae, Dahl
HF: Dale, Cordy, McLean
F: Dickson, T.Boyd, Stringer
R: Roughy, Bont, Wallis
IC: Picken, Libba, Honeychurch, Jong

- Picken to switch around. He is struggling anyway. Hunter and him can rotate down back and hopefully at least one offers us run.
- Libba, Honey, Jong do the mid/fwd thing that served us alright last year.


If Moz is out, Cloke (hoping Etihad suits him a bit more) comes in and Zaine goes back

If Tom Boyd is out, Campbell comes in. At least he can get his hand near a ruck contest.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Bevo has backed himself into a corner a little bit by talking about Libba in the post-match press conference. We're past the point of being able to keep Libba back in the twos with the hope that he'll return to his best form, it's a luxury that we can't afford anymore. At even 60% capacity, Libba will improve the team, no question, so he has to play.

In: Libba, Sweet Jesus, Webb, Cordy, Boyd.
Out: English, Adams, Suckling, Cloke, Biggs.

Back the leaders to bounce back: Roughead, M.Boyd.

Cull the main culprits for losing contested ball: Biggs, Suckling.

Remove the tall players not offering anything: English, Cloke.

Put ball players on notice that their output can't reach that kind of low again: Jong, Dale, Johannisen.

Webb plays Suckling's role, Roughead switches down back, Cordy and Honeychurch are tasked with the forward pressure. Boyd back into the ruck.

[always right]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Bevo has backed himself into a corner a little bit by talking about Libba in the post-match press conference. We're past the point of being able to keep Libba back in the twos with the hope that he'll return to his best form, it's a luxury that we can't afford anymore. At even 60% capacity, Libba will improve the team, no question, so he has to play.

In: Libba, Sweet Jesus, Webb, Cordy, Boyd.
Out: English, Adams, Suckling, Cloke, Biggs.

Back the leaders to bounce back: Roughead, M.Boyd.

Cull the main culprits for losing contested ball: Biggs, Suckling.

Remove the tall players not offering anything: English, Cloke.

Put ball players on notice that their output can't reach that kind of low again: Jong, Dale, Johannisen.

Webb plays Suckling's role, Roughead switches down back, Cordy and Honeychurch are tasked with the forward pressure. Boyd back into the ruck.

Reckon Biggs is more important now with Boyd out of form, Murphy missing, and JJ likely to be a target as he was in Sydney. Who else can run the ball out of defence? Even Adams was good at generating drive from defence and now he's missing.

[JohnGentStand]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Ins- Boyd, Morris, Webb,

Outs- Adams, English, Picken,

I'd love to have Murph & Libba back too
Cordy would be a chance for Cloke

[Eastdog]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

I don't normally attempt selections but I'll give it a try:

Out: Adams, Suckling, English, Cloke
Ins: Libba, Webb, Honeychurch, T Boyd

Really will be great to have Libba come back.

[hujsh]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Seeing as it's not quite clear where guys are with injury (Morris Boyd for example) I'll give my selections is a slightly different way. I've split my changes into people I want out of the team or are injured, people I want in the team and those I'm 50/50 on whether they stay or go depending on injuries VFL form etc.

Desired/forced outs: Boyd, Suckling, English, Adams

Desired ins: Williams, Libba, Morris, Cordy, T.Boyd, Honeychurch

Considered outs: Hunter, Cloke

Considered ins: Redpath

I've got more I want to bring in than I am sure I want to go but it's possible one of Morris or Boyd won't be available

OUTS:
M.Boyd and Sucking have been poor. Boyd lost the magic pixie dust that made him a composed backman so hopefully he finds more in the VFL.

English got his run/reward but isn't ready

Hunter hasn't been great so if we have someone who deserves a game ahead of him lets pull that trigger.

Cloke wasn't great but considering the conditions (weather and team performance) he might deserve a second chance

INS:
Morris replaces Adams and if not available Cordy comes in.

I'd be happy with Cordy in regardless and would even consider playing him forward again if no spots open up down back.

Williams replaces one of Boyd or Sucking, Libba adds both defensive grunt and skill if he's ready to come back to Earth and HC has done everything that could be asked of him for another shot. His forward defensive pressure may help re-establish our standard.

Redpath is just if we want a direct replacement for Cloke.

[lemmon]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Do we know how far away Clay is?

[GVGjr]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

Do we know how far away Clay is?

I looked on the AFL site and it said one to two weeks

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

I'm not sure if i want Gawn to play or not. He's obviously one of the best ruckman in the comp and that is an area we always struggle in. But if he comes straight back after 8 weeks out he will be massively underdone which could work in our favour.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

The club representative on the Facebook page (Red WB) has stated that Morris and Tom Boyd are ready to go this week.

Also stated they are expecting Clay Smith to be available for selection this week.

[lemmon]

Re: Match Committee - Round 13, 2017 vs Melbourne

I'd consider Clay coming straight back in. He's not a matchwinner but he hits the scoreboard and brings some competitiveness