Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

[merantau]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

The umpires' treatment of Bontempelli against the Swans was vendetta-like. It was as if they'd decided to bring him back to the field by throwing him a handicap. Thus: no "ball spills free in the tackle for Bont. It's INCORRECT DISPOSAL!" No high tackle on Bont. Bont headbutted the guy's elbow. And Bonthad the ball for a nano second, ipso facto he had PRIOR OPPORTUNITY!

[boydogs]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

For the record - the handful of comments around regarding Bontempelli spending time in the VFL, are quite ridiculous.

Sure he isn't playing right at the top of his game - and didn't have a good night on Thursday. But a bit of perspective please!!

In the worst game he has played in a very long time, he still managed to have our second most score involvements (behind only Stringer) and had MORE THAN DOUBLE the amount of tackles than the next highest tackler for the bulldogs.
The previous game - he had 5 shots on goal.
He is definitely in a period of the yips in front of goal - but is anyone seriously doubting that he won't turn that aspect of his game around?

v Sydney - 18 possessions, 38% efficiency, 0.1
v St Kilda - 22 possessions, 54% efficiency, 1.4
v Geelong - 19 possessions, 68% efficiency, 0.3

[Bornadog]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

v Sydney - 18 possessions, 38% efficiency, 0.1
v St Kilda - 22 possessions, 54% efficiency, 1.4
v Geelong - 19 possessions, 68% efficiency, 0.3

Still wouldn't drop him although he is not playing at the elite level we are used to.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

English is about the 10th best ruck at the club at this stage. He's shown some terrific signs at VFL level but doesn't have the strength to be anything but an outside mid at AFL level

Are you sure about this?

[boydogs]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

Are you sure about this?

Roughead, Campbell, T Boyd, Cloke, Redpath & Cordy have all demonstrated they can compete in the ruck better than English can at the moment. Bonts, Jong & Dunkley would have a case as well. He'll get there but he's not ready yet

He averaged 5.5 hitouts in his two games, even Ayce Cordy bettered that with 9.9 hitouts per game in his string of 7 games in his final season

[jeemak]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

I don't think using Ayce's final year stats represents a fair comparison against an average of English's two games, given the former had six times the AFL experience in years.

[hujsh]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

I don't think using Ayce's final year stats represents a fair comparison against an average of English's two games, given the former had six times the AFL exposure of the former (see what I did there?).

Was was also the number one ruckman in his games while English played maybe a half in each

[boydogs]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

I don't think using Ayce's final year stats represents a fair comparison against an average of English's two games, given the former had six times the AFL experience in years.

English is in no way, shape or form the next Ayce Cordy, but if we play him in the seniors in his first year, that's the output we can expect

[boydogs]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

Was was also the number one ruckman in his games while English played maybe a half in each

Maybe 40pc game 1 and 70pc game 2 with T Boyd out and Roughead going back in the second half when Adams went down. 11 hit outs in probably more than a full game. With 70 or so ruck contests a game, you can see how many taps we conceded

[ratsmac]

Re: Bankers And Anchors - Round 12, 2017 vs Sydney

English shouldn't have played ruck on that wet track. He hasn't any where near enough core strength to compete in a 1 on 1 duel with an AFL ruckman. On a dry track he will have a better chance to run and jump at the ruck contest. Either way he still isn't ready. I think Bevo was under no illusions that he'd get smashed in the hit outs but thought he could make good contributions around the ground. As it turned out the conditions in no way suited him. He wouldn't be the first-ever player to be terrible in the wet.

Roughead was just about as useless as English so we should be getting stuck into Rough as well.