Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

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  • Mofra
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    • Dec 2006
    • 15116

    #46
    Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
    With Wood coming back maybe we see Young switched forward?
    I'd hate to see us play Wood as a tall.
    He's giving up ~15cm on either Lynch or PW
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67693

      #47
      Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

      Originally posted by Mofra
      I'd hate to see us play Wood as a tall.
      He's giving up ~15cm on either Lynch or PW
      THIS ^^^^

      The big problem at our club, that just continues.

      Off the top of my head, Wood, Morris, Hargrave, Kretiuk, Ellis all having to give inches away and sacrificing their game for the good of the team.
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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18378

        #48
        Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

        With Cloke only if he is 100% ready to go we select him. Great reports from the VFL on his performances. We just haven't had any sort of cohesion in the forward line particular also with Crameri out as well as Boyd but hopefully we get it soon.
        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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        • Nuggety Back Pocket
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2064

          #49
          Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

          Originally posted by Mofra
          I'd hate to see us play Wood as a tall.
          He's giving up ~15cm on either Lynch or PW
          The decision to play Wood for most of the year as a key defender has clearly dimmed his effectiveness which was most evident last year playing on a back flank where his excellent marking and dash against similar size players made him a stand out.

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          • kruder
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2011
            • 3912

            #50
            Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

            Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
            The decision to play Wood for most of the year as a key defender has clearly dimmed his effectiveness which was most evident last year playing on a back flank where his excellent marking and dash against similar size players made him a stand out.
            Your giving him an easy out there. A young kid played his role on the weekend how many intercept marks did he take?

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            • always right
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 4189

              #51
              Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

              Originally posted by kruder
              Your giving him an easy out there. A young kid played his role on the weekend how many intercept marks did he take?
              Do you reckon Carlton put as much planning into negating Young's influence as clubs normally do for Wood? The benefits of being a first gamer with no expectations versus an AA defender.
              I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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              • kruder
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2011
                • 3912

                #52
                Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                Originally posted by always right
                Do you reckon Carlton put as much planning into negating Young's influence as clubs normally do for Wood? The benefits of being a first gamer with no expectations versus an AA defender.
                Well of course not but you gotta be able to handle that as a Vice Captain and All Australian at the peek of your career. Being made accountable by the opposition isn't an excuse for mine all good players have to deal with that week in week out. It was refreshing seeing a defender in our back 6 mark the ball it hasn't happened all year.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 22150

                  #53
                  Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                  Easton is at least 11cm shorter than Young! Young played against a side that puts extra numbers behind the ball, to a greater extent than we've seen this year.

                  Let's be reasonable with our comparisons. Young played a fantastic game, but Carlton's set up and scrappy ball movement had a fair bit to do with how he played and the opportunity to influence the game he enjoyed.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • always right
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 4189

                    #54
                    Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                    Originally posted by kruder
                    Well of course not but you gotta be able to handle that as a Vice Captain and All Australian at the peek of your career. Being made accountable by the opposition isn't an excuse for mine all good players have to deal with that week in week out. It was refreshing seeing a defender in our back 6 mark the ball it hasn't happened all year.
                    Not to diminish Young's performance but it helps when your opposition doesn't make you accountable and is so predictable with their ball movement.
                    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5845

                      #55
                      Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                      Originally posted by kruder
                      Well of course not but you gotta be able to handle that as a Vice Captain and All Australian at the peek of your career. Being made accountable by the opposition isn't an excuse for mine all good players have to deal with that week in week out. It was refreshing seeing a defender in our back 6 mark the ball it hasn't happened all year.
                      Agree, it didn't stop Wood in 2015 or 2016. Watching Young mark it and set up attacks in the other direction made me realise how much we miss Wood's work in launching attacks from the backline
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 22150

                        #56
                        Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                        Just watching the second quarter again because that's about as good as things get for this mediocre season, and just reviewed the Honeychurch tackle on Kreuzer, possession that Picken did his best to not mark, and then follow up to the Red mongrel - then goal -
                        and thought that if this was any other season in which a 12 game veteran did what HC did in that sequence we'd be creaming.

                        Premierships change people. Find me a better play this year.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15547

                          #57
                          Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                          Cloke & Redpath both on the flight up North.

                          edit. AFL website reporting that Cloke isn't making the trip with the rest of the team.
                          Last edited by Mantis; 20-07-2017, 02:29 PM.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67693

                            #58
                            Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Cloke & Redpath both on the flight up North.

                            edit. AFL website reporting that Cloke isn't making the trip with the rest of the team.
                            Maybe he is on a separate flight?
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                            • Danny the snakeman
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 399

                              #59
                              Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              Cloke & Redpath both on the flight up North.
                              And you said it with such confidence.

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15547

                                #60
                                Re: Match Committee - Round 18, 2017 vs Gold Coast Suns

                                Originally posted by Danny the snakeman
                                And you said it with such confidence.
                                I listened to Stevo... Lesson learnt.

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