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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6471

    #1

    Rate the coaches as players

    Of the current 16 coaches, I only saw Roos play.

    What was each like as a player?
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14554

    #2
    Re: Rate the coaches as players

    Good post dry, i have always looked at coaches and there style and how the team plays , to me i tend to notice the team has the strengths the coach had as a player.
    Wallace with us had a great midfield.
    Malthouse is the biggest example of this, he was a backman and every club he has coached has always had the measliest backline.
    Daniher at Melb had Nietz and Shwartz, much the same as him tall and could take a mark, and used them well.
    Thomas at St kilda had an awesome forward line but seemed to have no idea how to structure it, Thomas wasnt a forward.
    Sheedy at Essendon was a tough trying, dirty back pocket. When he took over at Essendon he had built that tough dirty look into them, eg rules were changed because he taught players to keep hold of players when they marked , thats so obvious he was a backman.
    Eade was dasher and we play his way also.
    Brisbane with Leigh Matthews are hard bodied and strong, play a lot like he did, barge through and hit hard.
    Ratten at Carlton is building up his midfield, where did Ratten play?
    OF course i dont know how some of the coaches played as some only played a few games.
    Pagan was an exception at Nth, think he only played a handful of games in a back pocket, but his side was built from the under 19s and worked there way through, he had players that were that good he built his game around them (Carey)
    Its quite obvious this is going to happen as coaches are going to coach what they know.
    Bring back the biff

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    • Bumper Bulldogs
      Coaching Staff
      • Apr 2008
      • 3046

      #3
      Re: Rate the coaches as players

      I think Woosha had it a few years ago but is in rebuilding.
      Havey - Well Freo have no hope.
      Roos always the loose defender that picked up easy kicks as the extra man, no wonder the swan have no speed.
      Mark williams - I cant place the side as i feel they are so dominated by the Corns factor.
      BB.

      Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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      • MikeSheahan

        #4
        Re: Rate the coaches as players

        My list in order of playing ability and acheivements.
        1. Matthews
        2. Worsfold
        3. Roos
        4. Williams
        5. Wallace
        6. Eade
        7. Harvey
        8. Ratten
        9. Malthouse
        10. Knights
        11. Thompson
        12. Laidley
        13. Lyon
        14. Clarkson
        15. Bailey
        16. Craig

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        • ledge
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2007
          • 14554

          #5
          Re: Rate the coaches as players

          Surprises me you have Malthouse so low and Eade below Wallace.
          Bring back the biff

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45577

            #6
            Re: Rate the coaches as players

            Originally posted by ledge
            Surprises me you have Malthouse so low and Eade below Wallace.

            Wallace was a far better footballer than Eade in my opinion.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • MikeSheahan

              #7
              Re: Rate the coaches as players

              A very hard list to do, but I feel that Wallace had more impact in the Hawthorn engine room than Eade, but both were great. Mick Malthouse was a very good player but not a great one. By the way, my list applies to AFL only, so Neil Craig has to be 16, but I'm certainly aware of his longevity in the SANFL.

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14554

                #8
                Re: Rate the coaches as players

                Sorry didnt read post properly was going just on coaching side of things
                Bring back the biff

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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13387

                  #9
                  Re: Rate the coaches as players

                  Originally posted by MikeSheahan
                  My list in order of playing ability and acheivements.
                  1. Matthews
                  2. Worsfold
                  3. Roos
                  4. Williams
                  5. Wallace
                  6. Eade
                  7. Harvey
                  8. Ratten
                  9. Malthouse
                  10. Knights
                  11. Thompson
                  12. Laidley
                  13. Lyon
                  14. Clarkson
                  15. Bailey
                  16. Craig
                  Surprised 3 or 4 of these guys are below Woosha.
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14554

                    #10
                    Re: Rate the coaches as players

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    Surprised 3 or 4 of these guys are below Woosha.
                    Remember this is on playing ability and coaching put together, i tend to agree with the list,not far off at all.
                    Which ones would you put above Woosha and why?
                    Roos probably?
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • MikeSheahan

                      #11
                      Re: Rate the coaches as players

                      I thought Worsfold at 2 was an easy choice. Two time premiership captain does enough for me. An absolute fearless leader was Woosha.

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14554

                        #12
                        Re: Rate the coaches as players

                        But in playing wise its not Roos fault he never played in a premiership side, actual fact, can you imagine how hard it would have been playing at Fitzroy for years.
                        And then he proved himself to Sydney as a player and played well.
                        Moved on to a Premiership coach too in a side that never really looked like doing it.
                        We dont like his game plan but its different , which shows initiative and has got him the ultimate prize.
                        Both Woosha and Roos were great players and are good coaches, a close one for me.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • Dry Rot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6471

                          #13
                          Re: Rate the coaches as players

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          Remember this is on playing ability and coaching put together
                          No. I'm purely asking about them as a player.
                          The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                          • Dry Rot
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6471

                            #14
                            Re: Rate the coaches as players

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            Surprised 3 or 4 of these guys are below Woosha.
                            What was he like as a player?

                            Position? IIRC he was a feared defender.
                            The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14554

                              #15
                              Re: Rate the coaches as players

                              Originally posted by Dry Rot
                              What was he like as a player?

                              Position? IIRC he was a feared defender.
                              He was a very, very good player, hard and honest, a lot of skill too.
                              Would get a game in any AFL team and probably would have captained in all of them too.
                              Bring back the biff

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