Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

    Originally posted by SonofScray
    I think the assistants are in strife.
    Maybe they can be returned to the roles they had last year...
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    • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 8962

      Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
      Three more inside 50s and lose by 10 goals! Game plan is shot. Dysfunctional forward line. Teams putting numbers behind us and then carving us up on the counter.
      Not sure I can agree. We were just as frustrating last year, but our ability to keep working gave us tremendous amounts of repeat opportunity to eventually score. Moreover the team workrate and refusal to concede a stoppage that wasn't to our advantage was pivotal in denying the opposition time in possession.

      The fact that our midfield as a collective were gasping for breath and on their haunches at half time says to me we have lost fitness to compete.

      Not saying our gameplan has been proactive but i am not cobvinced its the root cause.

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      • Doc26
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2009
        • 3087

        Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

        Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
        Not sure I can agree. We were just as frustrating last year, but our ability to keep working gave us tremendous amounts of repeat opportunity to eventually score. Moreover the team workrate and refusal to concede a stoppage that wasn't to our advantage was pivotal in denying the opposition time in possession.

        The fact that our midfield as a collective were gasping for breath and on their haunches at half time says to me we have lost fitness to compete.

        Not saying our gameplan has been proactive but i am not cobvinced its the root cause.
        It does make the loss of Graham Lowe at the start of the season look a costly one.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66774

          Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

          Originally posted by angelopetraglia
          Three more inside 50s and lose by 10 goals! Game plan is shot. Dysfunctional forward line. Teams putting numbers behind us and then carving us up on the counter.
          The issue is we don't use the ball well enough. Hunter had 26 disposals, but he just wasn't damaging enough, same with Macrae. The inside 50's were mainly just bombing the ball in to midgets. When we did get a shot at goal, Redpath missed 3 set shots, Stringer one. They kicked all of their set shots.
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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21836

            Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

            Our quick kicks lack penetration, and Hunter is a major culprit of this.

            He and others think it's OK to slam it on the boot and not kick a drop punt, instead kicking a snap that sees the ball drop fiercely. It leads to shallow inside 50's and easy pickings for defenders filling the space.

            It really pisses me off that each time the likes of Hunter get the footy the first thing they do is try to snap it instead of kicking a drop punt.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66774

              Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

              Originally posted by jeemak
              Our quick kicks lack penetration, and Hunter is a major culprit of this.

              He and others think it's OK to slam it on the boot and not kick a drop punt, instead kicking a snap that sees the ball drop fiercely. It leads to shallow inside 50's and easy pickings for defenders filling the space.

              It really pisses me off that each time the likes of Hunter get the footy the first thing they do is try to snap it instead of kicking a drop punt.
              Exactly Jee, can't stand his kicking or Macrae's
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6849

                Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                Dysfunctional forward plan and play. Not just the players who players who play inside 50m.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                  Well even Luke agrees "We don't deserve to play quickly" and playing next Sunday will aĺlow us to process the loss. Good to hear

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                  • S Coast Simon
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 348

                    Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                    It is sad to see our members turning on the team the way some have. They are young boys playing against men at the moment. We won a flag on heart. Now our boys are being smashed by much bigger men.

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                    • merantau
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2015
                      • 4064

                      Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                      I am gutted. The last 15 minutes of the 2nd quarter promised a good second half - we didn't fire a shot! FFS! HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? We are shot. I can't see us winning more than 2 or 3 games. This year has been a total disaster for mine.
                      Why can't we kick goals from set shots? Why is our delivery so poor? What's happened to our fitness?

                      I feel completely dudded as I honestly thought we stood a chance at half time.
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                      • AndrewP6
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8142

                        Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                        Originally posted by S Coast Simon
                        It is sad to see our members turning on the team the way some have. They are young boys playing against men at the moment. We won a flag on heart. Now our boys are being smashed by much bigger men.
                        Yes, and now they are not playing with any heart at all.
                        [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21836

                          Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                          Originally posted by S Coast Simon
                          It is sad to see our members turning on the team the way some have. They are young boys playing against men at the moment. We won a flag on heart. Now our boys are being smashed by much bigger men.
                          We're not turning on the team, I can't say much about what you might be seeing personally or on FB etc. but I think we're fairly balanced.

                          The club deserves severe criticism for the tripe it has served its members this year. The players are not fit enough, the game plan either hasn't evolved or hasn't been executed, and our match committee and coaching has been full of hubris.

                          Like others I love the players and all involved at the club who delivered us the holy grail last year, and I'll forgive them for the bullshit that I'm seeing this year, but the latter is as I called it and we as members deserve better.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • whythelongface
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4493

                            Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                            Originally posted by SonofScray
                            I think the assistants are in strife.
                            They are, but ultimately the Head Coach has the responsibility and is accountable for overall performance thus is the one under most pressure

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                            • whythelongface
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4493

                              Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                              Originally posted by S Coast Simon
                              It is sad to see our members turning on the team the way some have. They are young boys playing against men at the moment. We won a flag on heart. Now our boys are being smashed by much bigger men.
                              I don't think we are turning on the team, however as members we are able to demand answers for our poor performances, similarly as we praise the group for outstanding achievements.

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11263

                                Re: Game Day Round 16, 2017 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

                                First Dogs game back from my overseas jaunt for a few weeks - was very happy with the intensity and application in the first half if not the execution. A couple of shit errors and Adelaide skunked out the back 2-3 times. We play like that for 120 minutes every week and we won't lose often if at all. I was rapt with how we were playing except for thr goal kicking and occasional crap error (Roberts on wing).

                                But that 2nd half was quite the abomination on every level - intensity sub par, skill execution dreadful, structure poor, one on one work woeful. Defending shithouse, 2 way running non existent. That was a performance of the worst team in the comp on form.

                                We can either put the cue in the rack for the season, which would be the pissweak option. Or we can suck up all the justified criticism we'll cop this week and get something out of the rest of the season in preparation for 2018. First half performance shows we can and should be much, much better than we have been for the last couple of months.

                                Players have careers on the line in the next 7 weeks - ok for fans to press play on the DVD but we don't have our future livelihood at stake. Bevo spoke really well in the presser - he hasn't put the line through 2017.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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