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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27656

    #16
    Re: Round 23

    All good points Oz. Very devilish.


    In the end it really doesn't matter I guess.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11848

      #17
      Re: Round 23

      Originally posted by Ozza
      Devils advocate.....

      It gives the league the flexibility to schedule Hawthorn v Dogs on a Friday night now that they know it will be Hodge (and probably Bob and Boyd's) last game, rather than it potentially end up on a 4:40pm Saturday arvo fixture or something like that.

      Similarly they now know that the Tigers\Saints game will be one of big consequence for finals spots - and potentially Riewoldt and Montagna's last game - and maybe it gets a Saturday night slot.

      I realize it is not necessary in terms of fairness and breaks before finals - but still gives the league the opportunity to showcase the biggest 'events' of the weekend at the best times.

      Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the important games, or the farewell games are in the bad timeslots - then they get criticized for that too.
      Counter devil to that is why not do it for round 22-21-20 19-18 etc etc. Every week there are important matches not on FTA and you just live with it.

      Most people won't criticise the AFL for not predicting what games will be important in round 23.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27656

        #18
        Re: Round 23

        Originally posted by hujsh
        Counter devil to that is why not do it for round 22-21-20 19-18 etc etc. Every week there are important matches not on FTA and you just live with it.

        Most people won't criticise the AFL for not predicting what games will be important in round 23.
        Would you have a bye in between each round?
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • Flamethrower
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2009
          • 1390

          #19
          Re: Round 23

          Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
          Footscray member since 1980.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #20
            Re: Round 23

            Originally posted by Flamethrower
            Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
            Where would you play the matches?

            Only one game played at the MCG and one game played at Etihad isn't going to please the AFL.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11848

              #21
              Re: Round 23

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Would you have a bye in between each round?
              Not a bye, an unset fixture so you can make sure the important games are on TV.

              And I wouldn't do it was more my point
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27656

                #22
                Re: Round 23

                Originally posted by hujsh
                Not a bye, an unset fixture so you can make sure the important games are on TV.

                And I wouldn't do it was more my point
                Yeah, I was just extracting the urine. If we did have byes the season would run a couple of months longer.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21840

                  #23
                  Re: Round 23

                  Originally posted by Flamethrower
                  Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
                  Percentage apparently takes care of any manipulation that may occur.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    #24
                    Re: Round 23

                    Originally posted by Flamethrower
                    Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
                    Originally posted by ClothesBootsMotorcycle
                    Where would you play the matches?

                    Only one game played at the MCG and one game played at Etihad isn't going to please the AFL.
                    Etihad
                    MCG
                    Adelaide Oval
                    Gabba
                    SCG
                    Metricon
                    Spotless
                    Subiaco
                    Kardinia Park

                    You're basically handing a big "*!*!*!*! you" to all bar three Victorian clubs.

                    It's a great big no from me.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66812

                      #25
                      Re: Round 23

                      Originally posted by westdog54
                      Etihad
                      MCG
                      Adelaide Oval
                      Gabba
                      SCG
                      Metricon
                      Spotless
                      Subiaco
                      Kardinia Park

                      You're basically handing a big "*!*!*!*! you" to all bar three Victorian clubs.

                      It's a great big no from me.
                      Whitten Oval
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Eastdog
                        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 18298

                        #26
                        Re: Round 23

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Whitten Oval
                        Yes I would love that
                        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11273

                          #27
                          Re: Round 23

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          Devils advocate.....

                          It gives the league the flexibility to schedule Hawthorn v Dogs on a Friday night now that they know it will be Hodge (and probably Bob and Boyd's) last game, rather than it potentially end up on a 4:40pm Saturday arvo fixture or something like that.

                          Similarly they now know that the Tigers\Saints game will be one of big consequence for finals spots - and potentially Riewoldt and Montagna's last game - and maybe it gets a Saturday night slot.

                          I realize it is not necessary in terms of fairness and breaks before finals - but still gives the league the opportunity to showcase the biggest 'events' of the weekend at the best times.

                          Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the important games, or the farewell games are in the bad timeslots - then they get criticized for that too.
                          All it gives is the chance for the AFL to garner even more unwarranted media exposure and column inches. We survived perfectly well until a couple of years ago without a floating fixture, and the only reason we have the bye is because the code is completely beholden to the gambling companies, who do not respond kindly to mass player resting in R23.

                          Now that we have the bye, the floating fixture is not needed at all IMO.
                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • Eastdog
                            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 18298

                            #28
                            Re: Round 23

                            Originally posted by Flamethrower
                            Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
                            Cool idea but would be tough to implement nowadays with most of the suburban grounds no longer used.
                            "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11848

                              #29
                              Re: Round 23

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              Yeah, I was just extracting the urine. If we did have byes the season would run a couple of months longer.
                              arg

                              Thought that might be the case as soon as I posted. Now I shall never recover from my shame
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Round 23

                                Because the TV networks would hate it, the AFEL would never start all R23 games simultaneously. The only reasonable argument I can see for retaining a floating draw for R23 would be to at least start the 2 or 3 games that direcly impact each other at the same time. So if 2 teams sitting 8th and 9th are on the same points with similar percentage, they could be both put on Saturday night (for example).

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