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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27658

    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Nice jab.
    More of a fit up. Got to the point of it anyway. It was quire a sharp observation.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44734

      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

      Time to get serious with Jake, his manager and his father

      Jake,

      You had some distractions last year and you haven't played anywhere near to your ability for the last two years. That's largely on you.
      You enjoyed a premiership season with us and are very well paid plus you have a lot of mates at the club.
      You tested the club and coaches patience with you right through this year and at the end of the season you received a blunt performance appraisal that indicated you should look elsewhere if you can't commit yourself to what the club and your team mates want to achieve in 2018.

      We get that is is not the sort of news you wanted to hear but equally it's not the sort of whack that the coach wanted to deliver either.
      It clearly comes down to how you handle the criticism:

      1) You could treat it as a challenge and use it to spur yourself on to achieve another level. Your more than capable of doing this.
      2) You could chuck in the towel and play the victim card which is the cowards way out.

      It would appear you've decided on the 2nd option which is no doubt your right to do so but the reality is you are a contracted player and like it or not for us to let you go we need to be adequately compensated.

      We understand that you need to stay in Melbourne but when you and your manager only nominate one club the onus then moves to that club to be fair and reasonable with their offer to get us to trade you. They haven't even attempted to do that.

      Right from the outset they have tried to acquire your services on the cheap despite being more than generous with the salary they are offering you. The alarm bells should be ringing because they should be willing to come up with better offers than they have.

      The Bulldogs came out with a very clear and fair minded valuation of around the middle of the first round and guess what Essendon had pick 11 which is right in the sweet spot. It seemed like Essendon had the currency and that a fair deal could and would be struck.

      Essendon did offer pick 11 but wanted the Dogs 2nd round pick back, pick 26. They've actually confirmed that they don't rate you high enough to offer a fair pick straight up for you. The alarm bells should be ringing.

      Essendon could have offered pick 11, they could have offered pick 11 with us giving back a 3rd round pick back to balance things up but they didn't. They could have also offered up next years first round pick but clearly they're not that confident in you.
      The alarm bells should be ringing even louder.

      They've pulled the trigger on two other trade targets, clearly you were 3rd in line but for some reason the alarm bells still aren't ringing for you. The offer on the table now is pick 25 and 30 which is well below a fair valuation and in fact undermines their apparent faith in you.

      Jake, you need to get your manager to do a few things if you really want out:

      1) Stop trotting you out as the victim
      2) Put pressure on Essendon to get a better deal because they could trade other players to sweeten the offer
      3) Consider a Geelong offer

      You have got a lot of mates at the club and you should be wanting to make sure that you don't let them down.

      We are serious that if something isn't offered at a fair and reasonable level for your services you will not be traded. You either need to deal with that by getting Essendon to stump up a better offer or come to terms you will be at the club again next year.

      If you decide to sit out the season then all the power to you but ironically a lot of Essendon players will let you know it's not great sitting out a season.

      It's time to stand up Jake.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • The Underdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2007
        • 6883

        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

        Originally posted by dukedog
        I know i will get flamed for this but i will use the analogy anyways. I went to a kids birthday yesterday. The cake had to be made dairy free. Gluten free and nut free. I just pissed myself laughing because thats how piss weak society is becoming. If your kid has a freakin allergy. You should teach him as such. Why does every other person have to pay for your weakness. Why is the club paying for jakes addictions and weakness' . Flame away PC crew.
        My main issue with your analogy is the fundamental difference between an allergy and an addiction. Other than that I don’t get your point at all. We should teach Jake not to gamble? we should screen draftees for Coeliac to save on catering? Kids are weak?
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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13248

          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          More of a fit up. Got to the point of it anyway. It was quire a sharp observation.
          Pinpoint accuracy
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66859

            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

            Originally posted by dukedog
            The weak as piss society are allowing it. So he can sleep with underage girls. But a richmond girl gets her tots out for a photo and everyone jumps up and down coz it got posted.
            I tell you who is weak as piss the AFL. The girl didnot give permission for her photo to be posted around, and the AFL won't do anything at all about it. This is a black and white situation.

            Sorry for going off topic but you brought that up and I don't know what it has to do with Stringer.
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            • dukedog
              WOOF Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 355

              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

              Originally posted by The Underdog
              My main issue with your analogy is the fundamental difference between an allergy and an addiction. Other than that I don’t get your point at all. We should teach Jake not to gamble? we should screen draftees for Coeliac to save on catering? Kids are weak?
              The PC is strong in this one. What im getting at is that people need to be responsible for what they do. If its your kid. Look after it. Teach it the right things. Dont force every other bastard to look after your problems. In the animal kingdom the weak are weeded out. That one sole doesnt create a problem for the rest of the team. Wake up.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13248

                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                Originally posted by dukedog
                The PC is strong in this one. What im getting at is that people need to be responsible for what they do. If its your kid. Look after it. Teach it the right things. Dont force every other bastard to look after your problems. In the animal kingdom the weak are weeded out. That one sole doesnt create a problem for the rest of the team. Wake up.
                You're dealing in absolutes and I'm sorry we're not living in caves anymore. I get your drift but it's too hard line and we've evolved beyond a primate congregation. Most of the weak kids at school eventually end up running the country. My 5 year will die if she eats a peanut and I'm not about to rely on all the times I've told her not to eat one just to keep her alive.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • dukedog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 355

                  Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  You're dealing in absolutes and I'm sorry we're not living in caves anymore. I get your drift but it's too hard line and we've evolved beyond a primate congregation. Most of the weak kids at school eventually end up running the country. My 5 year will die if she eats a peanut and I'm not about to rely on all the times I've told her not to eat one just to keep her alive.
                  So its personal for you. Which is why your stance os what it is. Thats fair enough. I won't argue that point with you.

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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10171

                    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                    Let's keep this thread about the trade worth of Jake Stringer.
                    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      I tell you who is weak as piss the AFL. The girl didnot give permission for her photo to be posted around, and the AFL won't do anything at all about it. This is a black and white situation.

                      Sorry for going off topic but you brought that up and I don't know what it has to do with Stringer.
                      The same situation as Cloke and Swan last year, except the player's were condemned on that occasion for being stupid and putting themselves in the situation and three women were obsolved of blame. That was a black and white situation too, it's just that it turns grey when people choose side over principle.
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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18050

                        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                        The good news is if we do lose Stringer to another club, he'll never reach the heights his full potential could allow. His father coming out and basically absolving Jake of any responsibility while claiming it's actually the club's fault Jake's reputation has been tarnished is just further evidence we're dealing with a spoiled brat who has been given everything he's ever demanded without ever truly deserving it. And it's clear that Jake nor his family have learnt a single lesson throughout this ordeal.

                        He will continue to be a ****-up off field and it will continue to curtail his on field performances. I'll be glad it's not in our colours.
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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11850

                          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                          Originally posted by dukedog
                          I know i will get flamed for this but i will use the analogy anyways. I went to a kids birthday yesterday. The cake had to be made dairy free. Gluten free and nut free. I just pissed myself laughing because thats how piss weak society is becoming. If your kid has a freakin allergy. You should teach him as such. Why does every other person have to pay for your weakness. Why is the club paying for jakes addictions and weakness' . Flame away PC crew.
                          Originally posted by dukedog
                          The PC is strong in this one. What im getting at is that people need to be responsible for what they do. If its your kid. Look after it. Teach it the right things. Dont force every other bastard to look after your problems. In the animal kingdom the weak are weeded out. That one sole doesnt create a problem for the rest of the team. Wake up.

                          Mate, take it to Bigfooty.
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                          • Rocket Science
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4855

                            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                            Originally posted by dukedog
                            The PC is strong in this one. What im getting at is that people need to be responsible for what they do. If its your kid. Look after it. Teach it the right things. Dont force every other bastard to look after your problems. In the animal kingdom the weak are weeded out. That one sole doesnt create a problem for the rest of the team. Wake up.
                            You felt insulted by a gluten-free cake so we should scrap civil society in favour of a master race unburdened by the weak.

                            Got it.

                            Gotta dash, think I spotted some weaklings that need weeding out.
                            BORDERLINE FLYING

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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              Mate, take it to Bigfooty.
                              How about you leave it to the moderating team... mate.
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                              • Rocket Science
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4855

                                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                                Originally posted by comrade
                                The good news is if we do lose Stringer to another club, he'll never reach the heights his full potential could allow. His father coming out and basically absolving Jake of any responsibility while claiming it's actually the club's fault Jake's reputation has been tarnished is just further evidence we're dealing with a spoiled brat who has been given everything he's ever demanded without ever truly deserving it. And it's clear that Jake nor his family have learnt a single lesson throughout this ordeal.

                                He will continue to be a ****-up off field and it will continue to curtail his on field performances. I'll be glad it's not in our colours.
                                All the cursory signs, including the bidding being done by Connors, suggest someone who's far keener to run away, feeling slighted, rather than own his predicament. I just don't think Jake possesses the maturity nor the humility to do anything else.
                                BORDERLINE FLYING

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