Stringer Trade Worth

[ratsmac]

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I'm more and more convinced this is the case.

Everything about it stinks. Everything is so orchestrated. Apparently the whisper going around now is that Connors will take it to a grievance tribunal to force Stringer's delisting if we don't agree to a trade. When has a manager ever been so hell bent on voiding a player's current contract?

Conspiracy theory: we caught wind of this well before his exit interview and decided to play along only to string (pardon the pun) the Bombers and Stringer along with zero intention of getting Stringer to the Bombers.

[Rocket Science]

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So this is purely one big contrivance about Connors & Stringer cashing in?

Perhaps they feared his indifferent form and behavioural issues would've impacted that with his current employer come renewal time?

[comrade]

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Same. I see it as a salary play by Stringer's camp, more and more and more. He wants Essendon for the contract...contracts take TIME to put together and reach agreement on...

Yeah. The timing is all off.

It's definitely not something that has been orchestrated over a few weeks.

[comrade]

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Conspiracy theory: we caught wind of this well before his exit interview and decided to play along only to string (pardon the pun) the Bombers and Stringer along with zero intention of getting Stringer to the Bombers.

I'd like to think we were two steps ahead of the game but our willingness to broker a deal with West Coast to get this done suggests otherwise.

My hope is that we've realised this has been a dirty manipulation by Connors/Essendon/the Stringer camp and we hold firm to ensure they don't get what they want.

[FrediKanoute]

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What is the rumoured deal that Jake gets for signing with Essendon?

[comrade]

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One final piece of the puzzle.

Bevo's pre-trade period interview. It's been used as ammunition by Connors and the media as proof we don't want Stringer and should therefore relinquish our rights to his contract for peanuts.

But think back to the context of that interview, Why did he do it? Because he was responding to rumours of the confrontation with Jake at his exit interview and that we'd informed Jake we were putting him on the trade table. The rumours were rampant and everywhere.

But ask yourself: who leaked those rumours in the first place? Who had anything to gain by it?

Paul ****ing Connors.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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I'd like to think we were two steps ahead of the game but our willingness to broker a deal with West Coast to get this done suggests otherwise.

My hope is that we've realised this has been a dirty manipulation by Connors/Essendon/the Stringer camp and we hold firm to ensure they don't get what they want.

Serious question: How do we know the alleged West Coast brokering is even real (or the details published accurate)?

There seems to be so much random journo guess work and theorizing that I am not sure even half of what is published is in any way accurate. For all of the reports that have come out that have proved to be correct, their must be 20 that are way off the mark. Some rumours even seem to be pushed with an agenda (such as those from the Bomber cheersquad Journo's who have been making an awful lot of noise).

We have been extremely quiet and seemingly unwilling to show our hand so what convices people that these reports are accurate? Some of the reported West Coast proposals (supposedly instigated by us because Essendon bullied us into finding our own deal) were ludicrous.

Roll on 2pm. I am now firmly in the Carlton or bust camp and admittedly without knowing the full destructive potential of this bloke in our four walls, my reasons are:
1, If he has been a crap bloke at the club (and supported in his endeavours) this whole experience will surely simmer that right down.
2, Even a sulking Stringer can't go too far backwards on his 2017.
3, Surely improving our terrible ball use into the forwardline and our dysfunctional forward setup will be a priority and I back our coaches to improve from what really was rock bottom at times. This will obviously have a net positive impact on Stringer's output.
4, Even with another average year there is no way his value will be LESS than two picks in the 20's and two picks in the 20's next year will be more valuable (due to the supposed 'super draft'). If he gets back to the form of 2015/early 2016 and wants to go we could command two first rounders.
5, If we fold what is the damage we do to our future trading? Dodoro seems to get what he wants because he has a reputation as a stubborn prick, everyone knows it, and nobody can seemingly be arsed fighting it. You would think people would refuse to deal with him but hate him as we do, so far he has delivered two huge wins with seemingly little resistance from two other clubs. We refused to be bullied and we stood up to him and he mocked us and backed us into a corner (even doing the Saad trade for a future second rounder rather than a 2017 to block us from pushing for their 2018 first rounder). He called our bluff and expects to win and the whole football world is watching. On top of this Connor's has created a circus and been threatening/blackmailing us into taking a shit deal ("oh, I won't look after them anymore if they don't do the deal"). We CAN'T fold now.

[GVGjr]

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What is the rumoured deal that Jake gets for signing with Essendon?

3 years at 600K

[Dry Rot]

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3 years at 600K

Ok, say you are JMac and all.

Would you take the shitty Bombers offer tomorrow or would bluff them and say its your 2018 first rounder or Stringer stays, and hold to that?

[Bornadog]

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Ok, say you are JMac and all.

Would you take the shitty Bombers offer tomorrow or would bluff them and say its your 2018 first rounder or Stringer stays, and hold to that?

I would bluff them and ask for the two second round picks from this year, plus round 1 next - take it or leave it.

As for the bullshit on mediation etc, sorry Stringer you have a contract.

EDIT - just saw this in The Age:

Essendon have picks 25 and 30 and are not only unwilling but are unable under AFL rules to offer a future pick for Stringer as they have already traded out a future second round pick to Gold Coast's Adam Saad.

[Twodogs]

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Ok, say you are JMac and all.

Would you take the shitty Bombers offer tomorrow or would bluff them and say its your 2018 first rounder or Stringer stays, and hold to that?

I would and I wouldn't be bluffing. My poker face would be a clown mask. I'd be more than happy to walk away and leave them with nothing. Nada. Nix.

Then again I would have walked away at the first sign of any games from Essendon. The pick 11 thing would have been a deal breaker and they can explain that to their fans.

[GVGjr]

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Ok, say you are JMac and all.

Would you take the shitty Bombers offer tomorrow or would bluff them and say its your 2018 first rounder or Stringer stays, and hold to that?

I'm happy to go down either road.

My gut feel is now that we should cut our losses and get right of him for picks 25 and 30 but I'd also like to say no and force the hand of Paul Connors to go to plan B or C and that is to deal with another club like Geelong or Carlton. This would also be the long overdue punch in the kidney's that Essendon and Dodoro is owed.

Stand firm Dogs. I know you are desperately wanting to salvage something and in the process rid the club of Stringer but I won't think any less of you if we stand firm unless a better offer comes.

[GVGjr]

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I would bluff them and ask for the two second round picks from this year, plus round 1 next - take it or leave it.

As for the bullshit on mediation etc, sorry Stringer you have a contract.

EDIT - just saw this in The Age:

Essendon have picks 25 and 30 and are not only unwilling but are unable under AFL rules to offer a future pick for Stringer as they have already traded out a future second round pick to Gold Coast's Adam Saad.

I would challenge that with vigor. Essendon have traded away an extra future 2nd round to what they already had. They still have both a 1st and 2nd round pick next year and this should not stop them for losing another pick.

[comrade]

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I would challenge that with vigor. Essendon have traded away an extra future 2nd round to what they already had. They still have both a 1st and 2nd round pick next year and this should not stop them for losing another pick.

Geelong have traded multiple future picks over the past few years, haven't they?

[comrade]

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I would challenge that with vigor. Essendon have traded away an extra future 2nd round to what they already had. They still have both a 1st and 2nd round pick next year and this should not stop them for losing another pick.

Seems like another journo pushing Connors' preferred narrative.