The Bulldogs were ordinary premiers

[Twodogs]

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“I’m telling you what, the MCG — fair enough it’s the biggest stadium in Australia, but why do we have to have the grand final there every year? Tell me one reason ...

That's as stupid as it sounds isn't it? He does answer his own question-I haven't misread that he asks for one reason despite the fact he has already given one very good reason why the Grand Final is always at the MCG?

[ratsmac]

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He also mentions how the poor old travelling interstate teams have to play at the MCG to play the grand final. But what he fails to mention (since the Bulldogs were part of his argument) the we had to travel twice interstate to actually make the grand final.

The grapes are tasting rather sour it would seem!

[ledge]

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Journos don't look at the big picture they only look at the reasons for their statement and refuse to look at the reverse arguement because they know it far outweighs it.
Why don't they go with the one that looks like they have football nous and the one with more fors than againsts?

[S Coast Simon]

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Or the fact that the only Victorian team with a home ground advantage is Geelong. So the interstate teams get an advantage during the season to get to the finals now they want the advantage in the grand final as well.

[Sedat]

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Look forward to seeing the next ordinary flag team that goes 19-7 in their premiership season.

But the week off, umpires, 7th place, yada yada.....

[ledge]

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The fact Brisbane won three in a row makes the argument hysterical, the fact port and Sydney won not that long ago, he only went back a few years to suit his article.
Is this the new topic because their only sides who don't have a second bye don't make a grand final or win was proved a lot of rot and us winning it was probably the greatest finals run against the odds in history.
Oh and forget the fact we played interstate twice in that run and won, but that would prove even more how huge it was and they can't admit to that because it makes the whole article rubbish.

[Sedat]

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Changing codes for a minute, Melbourne Storm have won 5 flags* in their 20 year history. Every GF has been in Sydney and in many of their finals campaigns, they've had to travel interstate in earlier finals despite finishing higher than their opponents.

Excuses are boring.

[Twodogs]

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Changing codes for a minute, Melbourne Storm have won 5 flags* in their 20 year history. Every GF has been in Sydney and in many of their finals campaigns, they've had to travel interstate in earlier finals despite finishing higher than their opponents.

Excuses are boring.

I'm not a Storm supporter, I saw the original Eric Grothe run the length of the field and score a try against St George back in 1978 and Ive loved Parramatta ever since. The Storm were bloody lucky to win against us (you could say WE WERE ROBBED!!!!!!!!) But I'd hate to think I was raining on anyone's parade the Storm were deserved premiers and must be getting close to being one of the best football clubs in the world.

[westdog54]

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Its worth remembering that this is the same 'journalist' that labelled the Tom Boyd trade the worst of all time when the ink was barely dry.

He's clearly forgotten the bit where Hawthorn missed the finals in 2009 and went on to build a dynasty.

He's also forgotten that one of the premierships he is so fervently celebrating, being the 05 Sydney/West Coast duel, was almost outscored by Richmond on Saturday.

These bits greatly amused me:

What’s the lesson from the Tigers? Surround a few stars with a bunch of battlers and just pressure the bejesus out of the opposition.


The game didn’t exactly bode well for players standing 194cm or higher either. There’s always going to be room for one ruckman but if key forwards can’t get a kick on grand final day what’s the point of playing them (and in turn the key defenders that follow them around)?

Nankervis managed to make an impact. Tom Boyd (The worst trade of all time) and Jordan Roughead weren't complaining last year. He seems to be relying on the fact that Walker and Jenkins played shithouse to prove his point. And if you can't stand up to pressure you don't deserve to win a premiership.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Feel like a broken record, but these journos who do no research, use no facts and fail to look into detail force me to repeat myself. This applies to our flag, not Richmonds.

1. Yes we finished 7th but our record gets us top 4 any other year. In fact the top 3 teams this year won just as many games as we did last year. So saying "we came from 7th" like its something never done and will never be done again is short-sighted. A typical 7th side (i.e. essendon this year) we were not. We were 2 games off top spot in 2016, our record would have had us 3rd this year and most other years and that was with the worst injury list in the comp. So no, it wasn't a flash in the pan. We were legitimate contenders but noone outside our supporters had the ability to look past ladder position. Poor journalism. Look into the detail please before making rubbish statements.

2. The interstate vs VIC team is nonsense. At least for our flag. Last time i checked our home ground was eithad and we play at the MCG bascially twice a year. Sydney played the MCG as many times as we did in 2016. Do your research journos.

3. As Sedat said above, we won 2 finals interstate. So the argument that we somehow benefited from having the GF at the MCG doesn't stand. We were winning no matter where we played and no doubt would have beaten the swans if the game were at the SCG. Just like we did earlier in the season. Use facts please.

We are fans who work full time or spend most of our lives on other things yet can still figure these things out. How can these so called "journos", who are getting paid to write this crap, not have the competencies to do research and check facts? Its embarrassing.

Edit: I would have, had adelaide or richmond lost in the prelims, had to add in a segment on the "effect" of the bye week. But obviously that has all disappeared after this year. Unbelievable really. What a baseless fact it was.

[Flamethrower]

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When I read articles like this the 1st thing I think of is...

I wonder if they know where their nearest Centrelink office is when their employer has a budget shortfall and they need to restructure to remove the deadwood.

[WBFC4FFC]

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Feel like a broken record, but these journos who do no research, use no facts and fail to look into detail force me to repeat myself. This applies to our flag, not Richmonds.

1. Yes we finished 7th but our record gets us top 4 any other year. In fact the top 3 teams this year won just as many games as we did last year. So saying "we came from 7th" like its something never done and will never be done again is short-sighted. A typical 7th side (i.e. essendon this year) we were not. We were 2 games off top spot in 2016, our record would have had us 3rd this year and most other years and that was with the worst injury list in the comp. So no, it wasn't a flash in the pan. We were legitimate contenders but noone outside our supporters had the ability to look past ladder position. Poor journalism. Look into the detail please before making rubbish statements.

2. The interstate vs VIC team is nonsense. At least for our flag. Last time i checked our home ground was eithad and we play at the MCG bascially twice a year. Sydney played the MCG as many times as we did in 2016. Do your research journos.

3. As Sedat said above, we won 2 finals interstate. So the argument that we somehow benefited from having the GF at the MCG doesn't stand. We were winning no matter where we played and no doubt would have beaten the swans if the game were at the SCG. Just like we did earlier in the season. Use facts please.

We are fans who work full time or spend most of our lives on other things yet can still figure these things out. How can these so called "journos", who are getting paid to write this crap, not have the competencies to do research and check facts? Its embarrassing.

Edit: I would have, had adelaide or richmond lost in the prelims, had to add in a segment on the "effect" of the bye week. But obviously that has all disappeared after this year. Unbelievable really. What a baseless fact it was.

Frustrating but you know what they say about Opinions? They are like Ar$e-holes: Everyone's got one!

Just focus on the Bullies (hope they are focusing on themselves too) and on how to improve from next year and beyond!

[Ghost Dog]

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The thing I like about Longmire is fact he says there is absolutely no excuses for travel. Ross Lyon says the same thing, or he used to...

[Twodogs]

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Frustrating but you know what they say about Opinions? They are like Ar$e-holes: Everyone's got one!

Just focus on the Bullies (hope they are focusing on themselves too) and on how to improve from next year and beyond!

And everybody is entitled to their own opinion, that's a persons right. What people don't have the right to do is make up facts to suit their argument and that's what Barrett does.

[westdog54]

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And everybody is entitled to their own opinion, that's a persons right. What people don't have the right to do is make up facts to suit their argument and that's what Barrett does.

Whenever I hear of someone being 'entitled to their opinion' I always turn to Professor Brian Cox:

“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!”