Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

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  • Webby
    WOOF Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1880

    Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

    Originally posted by WBFC4FFC
    Can Schache play down back? Might be a way to ease him into the side and create more depth down there.

    I hear Young is considered a future forward but given his age, they thought it best to play him down back until he develops a bigger frame!
    Was thinking the same thing just earlier - once the relief kicked in. Jake simply didn't have the smarts to play down there. Good development for a young key forward to be swung down back. I remember a year at CHB was the making of Granty back in the day ('95 from memory.) certainly nice to have the option.

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    • BornInDroopSt'54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 5286

      Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

      I'm not bitter and twisted but I would feel profoundly satisfied if Essendon's Jake Stringer is a poisoned chalice.
      Now that would make this trading period a major success. We may not need Jake to be a millstone at Essendon for it to be so, with Schache joining us as well as Crozier and Trengove.
      Footscray Football Republic.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

        Originally posted by EasternWest
        Hey no giving up Jong either. I like to think Brisbane asked for him and we said "no way".
        That’s where the lateral thinking to trade our 2018 second for pick 40 was good. Not the giving up so much, but the extra points made it a solid draft points trade, which they then used in another strategic trade of picks with Richmond. But for us it sealed Schache & Jong stayed. Was a good move.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44734

          Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

          Originally posted by Mantis
          I'm bullish on Schache, he didn't want to be there this year and it showed with his output... but he has some traits that I like, he can kick and he can mark.

          Think we will look back at this trade and be happy with it in a few years time and if you look what we had to give up to get a highly rated tall forward in Tom Boyd to the club, this looks a steal.
          If he is over the homesick factor we have got a bargain. He's already had 27 games of senior football and will get a lot better with us. The added advantage it now means we can go into games with just one ruckman and potentially 3 players who can support. No more Bonts contesting centre square contests.

          Schache will be a great addition.
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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            If he is over the homesick factor we have got a bargain. He's already had 27 games of senior football and will get a lot better with us. The added advantage it now means we can go into games with just one ruckman and potentially 3 players who can support. No more Bonts contesting centre square contests.

            Schache will be a great addition.
            Exactly. The team dynamic and make up will be good. Roughy/TC/English on form solo with a couple of minutes from Boyd/Schache/Tengove will mean only one primary ruck. Probably saves us rookie drafting one. And Boyd should get more time to develop as a KPF. Good things.

            An article just posted quoted that they see Roughy rucking, and Boyd & Shaq as a forward talent combo who can help.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66859

              Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

              Redpath will really have some competition now.
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              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Ghost Dog
                WOOF Member
                • May 2010
                • 9404

                Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                Very happy with this. Gives us a lot of options. One issue remains. How do I pronounce his name?
                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66859

                  Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                  Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                  Very happy with this. Gives us a lot of options. One issue remains. How do I pronounce his name?
                  We need to check with Chef
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11271

                    Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Very happy with this. Gives us a lot of options. One issue remains. How do I pronounce his name?
                    Shack-e.
                    W00F!

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                    • whythelongface
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4513

                      Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                      So our 2015 draftees are:

                      2. Schache
                      25. Dunkley
                      26. Collins
                      35. Adams
                      48. Williams

                      Dunkley, Williams and Adams in our top 22. Just need Collins and Schache to develop and this draft will have produced 5 long term prospects.

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                      • Doc26
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3087

                        Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                        Interesting how this has played out. We're forced to lose a dynamic forward in Jake, very cheaply based on significant character flaws and as a result only one suitor (the creeps) in the market . And then we pick up a highly touted key forward, very cheaply based on questionable character traits (of course very different to Jake's), with us the only legitimate suitor. Let's call it a draw.

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                        • Webby
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1880

                          Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                          Originally posted by Doc26
                          Interesting how this has played out. We're forced to lose a dynamic forward in Jake, very cheaply based on significant character flaws and as a result only one suitor (the creeps) in the market . And then we pick up a highly touted key forward, very cheaply based on questionable character traits (of course very different to Jake's), with us the only legitimate suitor. Let's call it a draw.
                          Difference being that one's got honest issues, whereas the other has dishonest, dishonourable issues!
                          Call it a win!!

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                          • Bulldog4life
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 9607

                            Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                            IT TOOK until the final 30 seconds of the trade period for a dramatic deal taking talented forward Josh Schache to the Western Bulldogs to be lodged with the AFL.

                            Schache’s future hung in the balance throughout the entire trade period, with the 20-year-old’s move to the Dogs not sealed until a chaotic final few seconds of the window.

                            The Bulldogs were made to wait until a move taking Jake Stringer to Essendon had been completed before pouncing on Schache, initially offering Pick 25 for the Brisbane youngster.

                            When that was rejected, it appeared as though Schache’s hopes of a return home had fallen flat.

                            However, the Western Bulldogs soon renewed its efforts with an offer of Picks 25 and 40, which was enough to force Brisbane’s hand and accept the club’s bulked-up bid.

                            Cccording to Lions footy boss David Noble, the paperwork wasn’t lodged with the AFL until just seconds before the trade period’s deadline came to a close.

                            “It was about 30 seconds away,” Noble said.

                            “It was pretty close. Sometimes you just have to persist and hang in there.

                            “We all have different elements of what we think is fair and equal value. You have to wait for some other pieces to fall.

                            “I think if you look at the points value, it works out to be about Pick 12 or 13. It’s in that market place. We also moved back into the first round, with Richmond’s Pick 15.

                            “It’s not always just about where the pick is, it’s what you can do with it. And it’s your strategy overall with what the trade and draft period looks like.

                            “For us, this is year two of our three-year strategy.”

                            Schache was drafted to Brisbane with Pick 2 just two years ago, but his value plummeted due to a series of form slumps and a request to return home to Victoria.

                            However, the Bulldogs remain confident the young forward can return to the type of form that saw him become one of his draft crop’s best players and saw him claim the Larke Medal.

                            “We see the glass half full,” Western Bulldogs footy boss Chris Grant said.

                            “That’s the approach we’re taking with Josh. He’s a young player. He’s got some work to do in his game, but we really think we can help his development and also with some off-field support.

                            “The positives far outweigh what the concerns might be as a young, developing player.”

                            The Bulldogs will pair Schache with former top draft pick Tom Boyd inside 50, having also completed a blockbuster trade to secure his signature from the Giants at the end of 2014.

                            “It’s all about talent,” Grant said.

                            “Both of those boys are talented players. It doesn’t matter if you’re 5ft4 or 6ft7, if you can play the game then you’re a real asset to the team.

                            “We see a great combination between both of those players.”

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                            • kruder
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2011
                              • 3873

                              Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                              Anyone know the contract details?

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                              • LongWait
                                WOOF Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 936

                                Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs:- Josh Schache

                                Originally posted by kruder
                                Anyone know the contract details?
                                The Hun reported his deal with Brisbane when he resigned was two years at $300k p.a. plus up to $150k p.a. in performance pay. That might be a guide.

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