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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Lukas Webb in 2018

    Where to play him?

    He's a VFL gun inside mid. His best at AFL level has been off the back flank. His kicking inside 50 would be an asset too. I don't think throwing him around positions hs been best for his development. I'd like us to pick one position, with a relief position which we may have done with the inside midfielder role which hasn't fully worked.

    For me, I'd like him to run, carry and kick off the half back flank, with the occasional stint off the HFF to see if his kicking improves our inside 50's.
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  • S Coast Simon
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 348

    #2
    Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

    To me he should be tried on the wing. He's not tough enough just yet as he is a kid, to play backline. Leave him to roam the wings dropping beautiful kicks into the forward line. Hunter and Dal in the forward pockets. They are not good enough field kicks to be delivering to the forwards. But in saying that imagine trying to defend those two ferreting around Boyds feet in the 50.

    B Cordy Trengove Morris
    HB JJ Wood Biggs
    C Webb Daniel Suckilng
    HF Stringer Cloke Crameri
    F Dal Boyd Hunter
    R ZakClarke Bont Libba
    I McRae Dale Magic Picken Roughead Adams Dunkley Young Williams

    Gee we have some talent on the list

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11844

      #3
      Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

      Originally posted by S Coast Simon
      To me he should be tried on the wing. He's not tough enough just yet as he is a kid, to play backline.
      We don't give Bailey Williams that excuse and he doesn't need it despite being younger IIRC
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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

        Originally posted by hujsh
        We don't give Bailey Williams that excuse and he doesn't need it despite being younger IIRC
        In a comment on BW he's at least been allowed to learn one position. Webby has been thrown all over the board.
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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11844

          #5
          Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          In a comment on BW he's at least been allowed to learn one position. Webby has been thrown all over the board.
          That's fair.

          He certainly looked much better at positioning when he started than when he was thrown back against he Lions
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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #6
            Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

            Originally posted by hujsh
            That's fair.

            He certainly looked much better at positioning when he started than when he was thrown back against he Lions
            True. I know we seem to like players to be multi dimensional from the get go, but I'm not convinced that's worked for Webby. I'd love for him to have a key kicking role, rather than trying to make him another contested beast. Guys like him, Dale & Crozier kicking inside 50 should make Tommy, Travis & Redders excited about playing football.
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            • Go_Dogs
              Hall of Fame
              • Jan 2007
              • 10162

              #7
              Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

              I wonder how much of it is mental for Webby? He's proven he's a consistent performer at VFL level but needs a breakout game at AFL level to get his confidence up.

              I still like him developing aspects of his game because he doesn't have the speed to play a strictly outside role.

              His ability in the air bodes well for a defensive role (haven't seen a huge amount of it since his early days, but he has it) and his kicking is neat and effective.

              He needs a big pre-season and plenty of confidence, but he could be our surprise packet this year.
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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44676

                #8
                Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                I wonder how much of it is mental for Webby? He's proven he's a consistent performer at VFL level but needs a breakout game at AFL level to get his confidence up.

                I still like him developing aspects of his game because he doesn't have the speed to play a strictly outside role.

                His ability in the air bodes well for a defensive role (haven't seen a huge amount of it since his early days, but he has it) and his kicking is neat and effective.

                He needs a big pre-season and plenty of confidence, but he could be our surprise packet this year.
                I think he needs to return to the back line to gain confidence in his game and to feel comfortable playing senior football.
                I'm perplexed why his outstanding form in the VFL as a midfielder level hasn't necessarily translated to even average form at the senior level. He reads the play well and he's known for his kicking skills but I'm not sure he has made the transition to an inside midfielder role he's been asked to play. There might be a question if he is quick enough is well.

                The next 12 months tells the story for him.
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                • Bulldog Revolution
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 3926

                  #9
                  Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  I think he needs to return to the back line to gain confidence in his game and to feel comfortable playing senior football.
                  I'm perplexed why his outstanding form in the VFL as a midfielder level hasn't necessarily translated to even average form at the senior level. He reads the play well and he's known for his kicking skills but I'm not sure he has made the transition to an inside midfielder role he's been asked to play. There might be a question if he is quick enough is well.

                  The next 12 months tells the story for him.
                  Its been a little strange hasnt it, he had a very good year in the VFL - has improved his hands, and hardness around the contest and continued to kick it well. He still needs to get a bit stronger, but looks very much on the improve.

                  When in the seniors this year he tended to play more midfield/half forward

                  They didnt use him much back in 2017.

                  I think they've challenged him to take a midfield spot

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #10
                    Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                    His manager on Trade Radio today said he expects him to stay as an inside mid.
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                    • Rocket Science
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4854

                      #11
                      Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      His manager on Trade Radio today said he expects him to stay as an inside mid.
                      A couple of other interesting snippets courtesy of his manager; Webb pondered seeking more opportunity elsewhere but decided to stay, and acknowledged the next step in his development is to seriously build his tank.
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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21836

                        #12
                        Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                        Midfield eventually, taking opportunities wherever they present themselves.

                        He's not ready to command a specific position yet, meaning he'll be used in holes when he gets a game. Eventually I see him as a Joel Corey type, but he needs a harder edge than what he currently has.
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                        • Missing Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8501

                          #13
                          Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                          I think the kid can make it as a starting 22, he has got some class, but he as a lot of our other younger kids are still short of a couple of good hard pre-seasons, we need to build the young ones up, I believe that winning the flag actually hurt us 2017 because of the shortened pre-season and perhaps the effect on the mind, so it will be interesting to see what a full pre-season has on our youngsters, we may be well surprised to see the energy return. But on Webby Half back or wing would be perfect for him.
                          Perhaps we could also look at settling the boys into a selected position instead of playing them all over the park every other week.

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                          • kruder
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2011
                            • 3858

                            #14
                            Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                            Webb needs to play forward so we can utilise his skills via connection and kicking for goal. How many inside mids do we need?

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #15
                              Re: Lukas Webb in 2018

                              Just throwing a question out there:

                              Webby can't find a spot at half back and has cant seem to make the jump to AFEL inside midfielder. His kicking for goal seems pretty good, and kicking inside 50 is pretty good too. Can we try to turn him into a Shaun Higgins type forward? Quick enough (without being fast). is a good size at 187cm, good skills, good kick and doesn't need a heap of possessions to kick a goal or two a game, and set up others?

                              Is it worth seeing if he can nail down a role like this?
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