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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Rate Week One

    Free Agent In: Jackson Trengove (KPD/ruck)
    Trade In: Hayden Crozier & Freo 2018 4th for Pick 40 & 82
    Stringer: Pick 11 or no trade... No trade

    Interest Out: Campbell, Honeychurch & Crameri officially looking for a home

    Picks 9, 27 & 81 (upgrading Roarke?)


    To me, it seems solid without anything really good coming in. This week would indicate that we think we can recover from the hangover without aggressive trading, but who knows next week. Trengove offers a body on gorilla forwards, and flexible ruck set ups and frees Adams, Cordy or Young forward. JMac says Crozier is primarily a half back flanker, so I guess that covers losing some half back flankers.


    Next Week Wishes:

    Hold firm on Stringer. If we are going to tell 17 clubs, our players and their managers something then do it. A great trade or invest in an extra welfare staff member.

    I'm not sold on tinkering and the hangover will reverse and we will be ok. I'd look at putting 9 & 27 and three looking to another club in a pot (maybe Stringer picks if they happen) and see what we can do. There's a fair few talented players still sitting out there like Schache, Saad & Kennedy whose clubs are happy to trade them. That's just the ones we know about.

    After a solid start, addressing good role players. Id like us to build upon it and be aggressive in going after top talent and looking at what we can do with draft picks.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: Rate Week One

    I sense a feeling this thread might not have great reviews for our trading in week one, if reporting is true.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15326

      #3
      Re: Rate Week One

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      I sense a feeling this thread might not have great reviews for our trading in week one, if reporting is true.
      As in Tom Browne reporting?
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9876

        #4
        Re: Rate Week One

        Stringer hasn't been traded yet but so far so good. Got Crozier for very little and grabbed Trengove for free. If that was the end of it I'd walk away happy. It is not though......

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #5
          Re: Rate Week One

          Originally posted by azabob
          As in Tom Browne reporting?
          Yep. As I said in another thread, if true my judgement will come after what we've been able to do with the picks (on trading for better picks, or players).
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10148

            #6
            Re: Rate Week One

            If Stringer goes for 2x 20's I'm gonna find his house and egg it.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • The Doctor
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 3702

              #7
              Re: Rate Week One

              I think we have done very well.

              Basically Trengove & Crozier for pick 40

              I would have been disappointed had Stringer been traded, even for pick 11. hope he stays and they can all be big boys and sort it out.

              big tick from me so far (as of Friday 13th!!)
              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44690

                #8
                Re: Rate Week One

                We missed out on Impey but the rest has been OK.
                Trengove and Crozier will be good additions and I suspect we might make one more trade for a player.

                Honeychurch and Crameri will be interesting next week and if we are shopping any players ie Tom Campbell or Fletcher Roberts.

                Stringer remains the burning question.

                Week one down and I think we are in a good position.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #9
                  Re: Rate Week One

                  It all comes down to the Stringer trade or non trade for mine .
                  First week and it's been reasonably good , Trengove at a decent price, and good trade for Crozier
                  Let's not blink at the outside noise and opinion, and Jake will come back if he isn't traded.

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                  • macca
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2368

                    #10
                    Re: Rate Week One

                    Got royally screwed by EFC. They threw egg in our face by trading pick 11 for D.Smith, expected nothing less than unreasonable from this flith. I do hope that we had anticipated this ( I will give the club the benefit of the doubt as I believe JmC is wise in the daft trading by the dodo). Was hoping to be more creative with future pick in round 2 (EFC) , swap future round 3 from us. -WIP

                    If T.C goes we need to find another Ruck -WIP

                    Honey Church - sounds like there are discussions -WIP

                    Trengrove good money ball pick. We could see him return to his 2011 best, always optimistic

                    Cozier, he will be coming into his prime now. Bevo will get the best out of him.

                    Dodge a bullet with Impey

                    not sure where to place Crameri, as does not sound like there is much interest

                    2 trades done
                    3 WIP - with Stringer trade looking highly unlikely we are going to get anything adequate from our perspective i.e. round 1 and a round 2 now or future
                    1- dodged bullet

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5844

                      #11
                      Re: Rate Week One

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      We missed out on Impey but the rest has been OK
                      Would have taken our second rounder to get him, which would have been overpaying IMO

                      We're going OK, Stringer interest has been lukewarm though and 3 other players may be going next week
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                      Formerly gogriff

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66785

                        #12
                        Re: Rate Week One

                        Originally posted by The Doctor
                        I think we have done very well.

                        Basically Trengove & Crozier for pick 40

                        I would have been disappointed had Stringer been traded, even for pick 11. hope he stays and they can all be big boys and sort it out.

                        big tick from me so far (as of Friday 13th!!)
                        Ditto for me.
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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10165

                          #13
                          Re: Rate Week One

                          I give us a 6/10 so far.

                          Trengove should be a great addition. He's on a 3-year deal, fair from a financial perspective and adds some leadership quality to our side, along with being a first choice key defender. He's still quite young in KP terms.

                          Crozier was cheap to acquire, adds some qualities we need and should be versatile enough to command a spot in our 22 - increased competition will do us wonders.

                          The Stringer trade is a tough one to gauge at the moment. Because we don't come out and posture in the media (other than saying our position hasn't changed) the narrative is being driven by Essendon and Paul Connors. This can lead us to think we're dropping the ball and going to get stitched up by DoDo. I don't mind that we don't come out and shout from the rafters the media is wrong every time they say something stupid (it would occupy all of the club's time if we did) so we need to stay firm.

                          My preference is to have higher end selections this year rather than receive mid-late second round picks, so it's disappointing 11 won't be part of any trade. Like Doc said, I hope we keep Jake.

                          I'm in the keep Honeychurch camp if we can.

                          If we do retain Jake, hopefully Crameri can find a new home and if Campbell can get some traction with another club, I hope we can assist him too.
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #14
                            Re: Rate Week One

                            The Doctor attached a link in the Stringer Thread. Perhaps WCE may be prepared to trade pick 13 for the Essendon picks. If that happened Stringer traded for pick 13 outright is not a bad result, as things stand.

                            Then look to put GWS & Honeychurch together for a one pick upgrade to 27. Then 27 & Campbell to Brisbne for Schache. They could push for an exchange of 9 & 12 and hand back 2018 4th

                            Ins: 9/12, 13, 81 (Roarke), Schache, Trengove, Crozier (6) - 2018 Freo 4th (& Brisbane 4th)
                            Outs: Stringer, Honey, Campbell, Bob, Boyd, Hamilton (6)

                            Two first rounders. A pick 2 KPP, KPD/ruck, HBF with neat skills, upgrade a kid. Points next year to help offset bidding on West & Khamis.

                            If our end rating time looks anything like this, I'm very happy.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #15
                              Re: Rate Week One

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              The Doctor attached a link in the Stringer Thread. Perhaps WCE may be prepared to trade pick 13 for the Essendon picks. If that happened Stringer traded for pick 13 outright is not a bad result, as things stand.

                              Then look to put GWS & Honeychurch together for a one pick upgrade to 27. Then 27 & Campbell to Brisbne for Schache. They could push for an exchange of 9 & 12 and hand back 2018 4th

                              Ins: 9/12, 13, 81 (Roarke), Schache, Trengove, Crozier (6) - 2018 Freo 4th (& Brisbane 4th)
                              Outs: Stringer, Honey, Campbell, Bob, Boyd, Hamilton (6)

                              Two first rounders. A pick 2 KPP, KPD/ruck, HBF with neat skills, upgrade a kid. Points next year to help offset bidding on West & Khamis.

                              If our end rating time looks anything like this, I'm very happy.
                              Ins: 9, 16, 81 (Roarke?), Schache, Trengove, Crozier & Freo 4th Round 2018 (6)
                              Outs: Bob, Boyd, Hamilton, Honey, Stringer, Crameri & 2nd Round 2018

                              Seems on last week's measure, I should be happy.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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