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  • BulldogBelle
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 5284

    #16
    Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

    I came across this file from a few years ago. It is interesting to note what happened to the draftees who led in the various categories.
    Good on you Caleb Daniel for doing so well.

    2014 NAB AFL DRAFT COMBINE STANDOUT RESULTS

    3km time trial (minutes : seconds)
    Jack Hiscox 9:18
    Tom Lamb 9:45
    Alex Neal-Bullen 9:54
    Billy Stretch 9:57
    Nathan Drummond 9:59
    Josh Deluca-Cardillo 10:07
    Daniel McKenzie 10:07
    Connor Menadue 10:07
    Liam Duggan 10:11
    Jack Steele 10:11

    Hiscox breaks all-time endurance record

    Beep test/shuttle run (level)
    Caleb Daniel 16.1
    Jack Hiscox 16.1
    Nathan Drummond 15.9
    Tom Lamb 15.5
    Ed Langdon 15.3
    Jarrod Garlett 15.2
    Alex Neal-Bullen 15.2
    Jason Castagna 15.2
    Billy Stretch 15.1
    Jack Steele 15.1
    Jordan Cunico 14.12
    Christian Petracca 14.12

    Click here for full draft and combine news

    Kicking test (score out of 30)
    Nakia Cockatoo 29
    Daniel Howe 28
    Kyle Langford 28
    Toby McLean 27
    Michael Mattingly 27
    Nathan Drummond 27
    Dean Gore 27
    Brett Eddy 27
    Clem Smith 26
    Liam Duggan 26
    Brayden Maynard 26
    Jack Steele 26
    Ed Vickers-Willis 26
    Mitch McGovern 26

    How do the combine tests work and who are the record-holders?

    Clean hands test (score out of 30)
    Nathan Drummond 26
    Paddy Brophy 26
    Reece McKenzie 26
    Tyler Keitel 26
    Dougal Howard 26
    Michael Mattingly 25
    Brett Eddy 25
    Caleb Daniel 25
    Jake Johansen 25
    Jarrod Garlett 25
    Brydan Hodgson 25
    Marc Pittonet 25
    Liam Dawson 25
    Jack Cripps 25

    Goalkicking test (score out of 30)
    Dean Gore 30
    Keenan Ramsey 30
    Nathan Drummond 25
    Paddy Brophy 25
    Michael Mattingly 25
    Liam Dawson 25
    Cory Gregson 25
    Aidan Anderson 25
    Dougal Howard 24
    Jarrod Garlett 24
    Jack Cripps 24
    Bailey Dale 24
    Declan Hamilton 24

    20 metre sprint results (sec)
    Marvin Baynham 2.81
    Oleg Markov 2.87
    Jarrod Pickett 2.87
    Reece McKenzie 2.87
    Connor Menadue 2.88
    Nakia Cockatoo 2.90
    Ed Langdon 2.92
    Paddy Brophy 2.93
    Conor McKenna 2.93
    Nathan Drummond 2.93

    Agility results (sec)
    Clem Smith 8.09
    Daniel McKenzie 8.10
    Conor McKenna 8.12
    Jarrod Pickett 8.13
    Teia Miles 8.27
    Lukas Webb 8.28
    Josh McGuinness 8.33
    Billy Stretch 8.33
    Kyle Langford 8.36
    Jack Lonie 8.37

    Repeat sprint results (sec)
    Nakia Cockatoo 23.93
    Nathan Drummond 23.95
    Daniel Nielson 23.99
    Daniel McKenzie 24.02
    Ed Langdon 24.06
    Oleg Markov 24.14
    Connor Menadue 24.14
    Conor McKenna 24.16
    Matthew Goodyear 24.49
    Jack Hiscox 24.36

    Standing vertical jump (cm)
    Marvin Baynham 88
    Jarrod Garlett 76
    Nathan Drummond 76
    Christian Petracca 74
    Nakia Cockatoo 73
    James Rose 73
    Dean Gore 72
    Nicholas Coughlan 72
    Evan Bruinsma 72
    Reece McKenzie 72
    Tom Read 72

    Running vertical jump (cm)
    Evan Bruinsma 97
    Marvin Baynham 95
    Daniel McKenzie 94
    Billy Gowers 93
    Nathan Drummond 90
    Nakia Cockatoo 89
    Matthew Uebergang 87
    Mitch McGovern 87
    James Rose 87
    Matthew Hammelmann 87

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    • The Underdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2007
      • 6879

      #17
      Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

      Originally posted by Dry Rot
      Bonar.
      Oh god yes. That’s all I want
      Park that car
      Drop that phone
      Sleep on the floor
      Dream about me

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11849

        #18
        Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

        Originally posted by The Underdog
        Oh god yes. That’s all I want
        There are pills for that
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • Bulldog4life
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 9607

          #19
          Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

          Those on Woof will know better but is this guy a chance at number 16?



          WHEN Subiaco excitement machine Liam Ryan was overlooked in last year's drafts, many people were left scratching their heads.

          A phenomenal talent who boasted a spectacular highlights reel, there was little doubt Ryan was blessed with the pure ability to make the AFL grade.

          He had just exploded onto the WAFL scene out of nowhere, a raw country footballer who booted 40 goals in 16 games in a stellar debut season after moving from Geraldton at the urging of his grandfather to chase his football dreams.

          Clearly recruiters had noticed his stunning potential. Ryan was invited to test at the WA draft combine – which requires nominations from at least two AFL clubs.

          However, the drafts came and went without his name being called.

          Questions lingered about the reasons why but – 12 months later – the 21-year-old admits he probably wouldn't have been ready for the step up.

          "Last year really I didn't take things serious," Ryan told AFL.com.au.

          "I used to drink alcohol a lot last year, but now I've got a baby on the way and got a girlfriend to settle me right down.

          "So I don't drink no more.

          "I used to love partying, but I don’t love partying no more – it's like I'm 40 or something.

          "I just chill at home with my girlfriend. Watch movies and chill."

          After seeing Ryan's change in attitude first-hand, it came as no surprise to Subiaco coach Jarrad Schofield that his star spearhead won the WAFL's goalkicking this year and finished eighth in the Sandover Medal.

          "It's mainly based on his attitude and commitment to training, understanding the requirements to succeed," Schofield said.

          "It's only his second season of WAFL, he's had close attention and kicked 73 goals.

          "He's put himself in such a better position to take the next step to AFL.

          "He settled down with a girl and he made it a focus of his not to touch alcohol, which is a credit to him.

          "It just shows that when he puts his mind to something he can stay on the path of it."

          While Ryan has been a headline act for the Lions, helping them to back-to-back WAFL Grand Finals, he pays plenty of credit to Schofield and football manager Daniel Vidovich for helping him harness his potential.

          Softly-spoken but fiercely-determined, Ryan always knew what he could do if he put his mind to football, but a strong club like Subiaco has brought out the best in him.

          "Everyone used to talk to me about it (playing elite football), but mainly my Pop was always onto me," he said.

          "He's seen the talent in me when I was about 14. He knew I could get where I want to be today."

          Despite it being blindingly obvious what Ryan can do, Schofield has heard all the queries about potential weaknesses.
          Some critics have pointed to his struggles against an AFL stopper in Ryan Nyhuis – who held Ryan goalless in this year's low-scoring Grand Final.

          But Schofield is quick to point out that Subiaco's ball movement was stifled by a well-drilled Peel line-up featuring 15 Dockers-listed players, and to the opportunities Ryan's threat opened up for his teammates.

          Other doubters have wondered if a high-flyer like Ryan can adapt to play as a crumbing small forward, which makes Schofield laugh.

          "When he's jumping on people's heads or leading up as a marking player – and he became a main focal point for us – he didn't have to be that crumbing player," he said.

          "But he can definitely do it.

          "He can work up in traffic and win his own ball at ground level, that's for sure.

          "He's an excitement machine. Not only can he take marks, he's got good leg speed, he's got good evasiveness, and he's hard at the footy for a guy who is pretty lean."

          There are things Ryan knows he needs to get better at. He can get fitter and stronger, and he's working hard on the defensive side of his game.

          But what he does do is make opponents nervous, and he's given WAFL fans a reason to come through the gates each weekend to see if he will add to a highlights reel Cyril Rioli would be proud of.

          "It's alright, hey?" Ryan says with a grin.

          "I grew up doing that stuff. My dad can jump, my uncle could play football.

          "I grew up around footballers."

          Can he do it at AFL level?

          "If I get a gig first, then I'll try it."

          West Coast, which is in desperate need of small forwards roving at Josh Kennedy's feet, Port Adelaide and Melbourne are rumoured to be among the clubs most interested in Ryan this year.

          Schofield is cautiously optimistic that Ryan will get his shot, and is adamant that he deserves it.

          "If he's ever going to go it's going to be this draft," Schofield said.

          "I was confident last year when about 10 clubs spoke to him. He's gone to another level.

          "Everyone's waiting to see if he can take that next step and I'm a firm believer he can."

          As for Ryan, he "100 per cent" believes an AFL club will pick him up.

          "If not, I don't know what's going on."

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #20
            Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

            Reads well, that's for sure. Matt Balmer references him about pick 46 to Port unless a WA club picks him up earlier.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • mjp
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7381

              #21
              Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Reads well, that's for sure. Matt Balmer references him about pick 46 to Port unless a WA club picks him up earlier.
              Which is a joke. Can you imagine where someone would be drafted if they kicked 73 goals in the TAC Cup?

              Tim Kelly and Liam Ryan should both go top 10 in this draft. They wont but they should.
              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44711

                #22
                Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                Originally posted by mjp
                Which is a joke. Can you imagine where someone would be drafted if they kicked 73 goals in the TAC Cup?

                Tim Kelly and Liam Ryan should both go top 10 in this draft. They wont but they should.
                The day a team does something as bold as that and it works will change the whole draft process.

                I wouldn't make that call for picks in the first round but I'd consider it in the 2nd round.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27658

                  #23
                  Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                  Is it just the tyranny of distance that keeps them off the Eastern states radar? Because Mike is quite right.


                  But then if a 21yo kicked 73 goals in the VFL would there be a big fuss?
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • The Doctor
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3702

                    #24
                    Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    Which is a joke. Can you imagine where someone would be drafted if they kicked 73 goals in the TAC Cup?

                    Tim Kelly and Liam Ryan should both go top 10 in this draft. They wont but they should.
                    I mentioned in one of the other draft threads we should consider Kelly at pick 16

                    I'd lay money on the fact that West Coast traded into the 2nd round to get extra picks was to give themselves a chance at either Kelly or Ryan or both. They have 13, 21, 26 & 32. Both players ready to go and would be expected to play round 1 2018
                    Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #25
                      Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                      Cam Twomey has twice said Coffield should go at 9. Here's afl.com.au piece on Coffield:

                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15473

                        #26
                        Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Cam Twomey has twice said Coffield should go at 9. Here's afl.com.au piece on Coffield:

                        http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-2...ts-mr-reliable
                        Can't see how he fits our needs at all. A mid sized defender isn't at the top of my shopping list.

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11198

                          #27
                          Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Cam Twomey has twice said Coffield should go at 9. Here's afl.com.au piece on Coffield:

                          http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-2...ts-mr-reliable
                          I'm pretty sure Twomey's lists are a ranking in his opinion, not a phantom draft where players are expected to go.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #28
                            Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                            Just reporting the news, not making it. I think Twomey believes he will work up to a big midfielder.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10156

                              #29
                              Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                              I want that Bonar dude. I don't know anything about the draft but he passes the name test, the eye test, and the injury discount test.
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • The Adelaide Connection
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2788

                                #30
                                Re: Picks 9 & 16 - What do want? Who do we want?

                                Originally posted by Mantis
                                Can't see how he fits our needs at all. A mid sized defender isn't at the top of my shopping list.
                                They’ve just posted a video highlights package and he mentions that he is a Dogs fan. Lightning quick 190cm HB that can also play on smalls, good user, leadership qualities, and working up to more midfield minutes. I think we could do worse. Hopefully he’s there at 16 if we are keen.

                                The Northern Knights product is a defensive playmaker with a turn of speed

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