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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27682

    #46
    Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

    Originally posted by Axe Man
    I think he played 6 games and kicked 2, 8, 2, 5, 6, 1.

    More info here

    Interesting to note we have the All Australian Full Back (Collins) and Full Forward (Schache) from 2015. Would be fantastic if both could take some strides forward next season.
    Thanks Axey.

    Looking at that link Tom Boyd played 2 games (2 and 3) in the 2013 Championships and kicked 9 goals. He missed the last 2 games with injury (4 and 5) and he isn't mentioned in the best or the goal kickers in game 1.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45587

      #47
      Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

      I still think the big challenge for us is kicking winning scores each week.

      With that in mind how do we set up a productive forward line? Do we need to rob JJ from the back line and Dahlhaus from the midfield to spend more time forward?

      HF: Dahlhaus - Boyd - Johannisen
      FF: Dickson - Schache - McLean

      Could that sort of set-up work?

      We would have Bontempelli, Picken, Dunkley, Wallis and Dale rotating through midfield as well.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5845

        #48
        Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        HF: Dahlhaus - Boyd - Johannisen
        FF: Dickson - Schache - McLean
        I'd rather Picken spend more time forward than midfield, and Johannisen use his dash off half back

        Can always change it up during games and with form and injuries
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10258

          #49
          Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          I still think the big challenge for us is kicking winning scores each week.

          With that in mind how do we set up a productive forward line? Do we need to rob JJ from the back line and Dahlhaus from the midfield to spend more time forward?

          HF: Dahlhaus - Boyd - Johannisen
          FF: Dickson - Schache - McLean

          Could that sort of set-up work?

          We would have Bontempelli, Picken, Dunkley, Wallis and Dale rotating through midfield as well.
          I'm pretty keen for Dahl to spend more time forward given his ability at ground level and limited options who can replicate that kind of tenacity he has. On McLean, I see him playing more midfield minutes again and not spending nearly as much time forward.

          I like the idea of Boyd spending more minutes forward, but also see the appeal of him spending a large portion of the season as our #1 ruck, and getting a chop out from Trengove and/or Schache. If we have a fit list, picking a best 22 is incredibly hard and we have enough versatility to have any of about 15 players spend time up front over the course of the year.

          I keep coming back to a 22 that will have a defensive group that's never beaten in the air, a midfield that combines power inside with a hint of pace out the contest and otherwise elite runners, with a forward group who can pressure and find space in the F50 with smart little leads. On the basis everyone is fit and at their best:-

          Morris, Trengove, Cordy
          Williams, Adams, Wood
          Suckling, Jong, Macrae
          Hunter, Schache, Johannisen
          Dahlhaus, Dale, Dickson
          Boyd, Bontempelli, Liberatore
          Biggs, Daniel, Dunkley, McLean
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67706

            #50
            Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

            Originally posted by Go_Dogs

            Morris, Trengove, Cordy
            Williams, Adams, Wood
            Suckling, Jong, Macrae
            Hunter, Schache, Johannisen
            Dahlhaus, Dale, Dickson
            Boyd, Bontempelli, Liberatore
            Biggs, Daniel, Dunkley, McLean
            GD, you don't see a spot for Roughead?
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            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14555

              #51
              Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

              Originally posted by bornadog
              GD, you don't see a spot for Roughead?
              I see Crozier ahead of Biggs as well
              Bring back the biff

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10258

                #52
                Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                Originally posted by bornadog
                GD, you don't see a spot for Roughead?
                For team balance, I see Boyd as the better option.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67706

                  #53
                  Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                  Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                  For team balance, I see Boyd as the better option.
                  Roughead also has a new role - see here
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13387

                    #54
                    Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    I see Crozier ahead of Biggs as well
                    Do we want a neat player down there or a true defender? It may come down to structure and the other players down there.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #55
                      Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                      Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                      Morris, Trengove, Cordy
                      Williams, Adams, Wood
                      Suckling, Jong, Macrae
                      Hunter, Schache, Johannisen
                      Dahlhaus, Dale, Dickson
                      Boyd, Bontempelli, Liberatore
                      Biggs, Daniel, Dunkley, McLean
                      That is a very intriguing team. Love the back 6. Dale at FF does give a whole new perspectve to our foward set up. Do feel that Hunter, JJ, Dahl in support are a little light on collectively in terms of body and marking strength. I'd slip Hunter up to the wing in place of Suckling and move Picken into a foward flank/pocket.

                      I'm a Jong fan but feel that McLean offers more at present and can hurt more with his disposal. I'd start him in the mddle, with Jong fighting with Wallis and others listed for an i/c role.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45587

                        #56
                        Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                        In terms of team balance, does the list look a bit light on for genuine midfielders? We have quite a few that can rotate through the middle which was a strength of ours in 2016 but I just think we are missing one or two midfielders.
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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27682

                          #57
                          Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          In terms of team balance, does the list look a bit light on for genuine midfielders? We have quite a few that can rotate through the middle which was a strength of ours in 2016 but I just think we are missing one or two midfielders.

                          I think we could do with a couple more quality users of the ball. You can never have enough good disposers that have the knack of getring the ball in their hands.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • The Bulldogs Bite
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11409

                            #58
                            Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            In terms of team balance, does the list look a bit light on for genuine midfielders? We have quite a few that can rotate through the middle which was a strength of ours in 2016 but I just think we are missing one or two midfielders.
                            Yep - which is why I wanted us to target mids.

                            Bontempelli needs support now and in the future. He will get it from a fit Libba but we need one more.
                            W00F!

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                            • Webby
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1880

                              #59
                              Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              In terms of team balance, does the list look a bit light on for genuine midfielders? We have quite a few that can rotate through the middle which was a strength of ours in 2016 but I just think we are missing one or two midfielders.
                              I wouldn't underestimate Bailey Dale on this front. I reckon he's poised to take a big step in 2018. Libba will be twice, no, three times the player he was in 2017 and Mitch Wallis can only be better placed with an injury free run at a pre-season this time out.

                              Toby McLean is stepping into his prime, Bont and Macrae are A grade and Daniel will just keep on going.

                              Another who I'm really, really bullish about is Ed Richards. He has a surprisingly good tank for a kid in his first pre season. He'll start down back, but I expect him to push towards midfield in the next few years. Very, very good user of the footy, too.

                              Finally, Bailey Williams is an interesting wing option with a pretty big body. What we've really lacked is tall defenders and I reckon we've covered that, now. One draft at a time & I reckon we have put together a pretty good mix.

                              Midfielders are a premium and aren't all that readily available at any real value.

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                              • Go_Dogs
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 10258

                                #60
                                Re: What will our 2018 team look like?

                                Originally posted by Webby

                                Finally, Bailey Williams is an interesting wing option with a pretty big body. What we've really lacked is tall defenders and I reckon we've covered that, now. One draft at a time & I reckon we have put together a pretty good mix.

                                Midfielders are a premium and aren't all that readily available at any real value.
                                Bailey Williams is an interesting one. I like him down back because he's good in the air, but he could offer us a lot with his running playing further up the field. I wonder where the coaching group see him developing longer term, although suspect with Murph and Boyd gone and JJ a chance to play more forward, Williams stays back in 2018.
                                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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