Ameet Baines new CEO

[AshMac]

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That puts it into perspective about list management and good on the club to stick by its guns . List management is about what’s needed 2 or 3 years down the track.
Social media fans are going nuts about losing him but don’t when it happens to other clubs, works both ways and as much as it’s sad to see it’s the nature of the beast.
In hindsight Dahlhaus isn’t someone who will be hard to replace and maybe we see Rhylee west as the replacement coming in anyway.
I see it as good list management on a player getting offered overs to prize him out.
We will win on this one I have no doubt.
We haven’t lost in many at all lately even though the Stringer thing was regarded as a loss at the time, at worst we have come out better off , a rookie replacement who probably delivered the same Jake this year.

Speaks volumes to the confidence the club had in Dahlhaus returning to his 15/16 form if he stayed at the dogs.

[FrediKanoute]

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Even if Lukey D returns to something approaching his form, in terms of the trade we will probably be losers in years 1 and 2, but made to look like genius' beyond that. There is a concern with Dahlhaus that as he ages and he starts to lose his zip he doesn't have the tools to compensate in other areas. Aged 26 now, he should be at the peak of his powers from 28 onwards there will be a decline. He's not one I see playing much beyond 30.

[Bullies]

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Would have been irresponsible of the club to offer 4 years to Luke considering his form over the past 2 years. By all accounts the coach may be happy to see him gone as well.

[ledge]

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Would have been irresponsible of the club to offer 4 years to Luke considering his form over the past 2 years. By all accounts the coach may be happy to see him gone as well.

Not that happy if we still offered him another 3 years .

[Bullies]

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Not that happy if we still offered him another 3 years .

We were always playing unders with Dal. We were never going to keep him.

[Twodogs]

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Not that happy if we still offered him another 3 years .

Not if we knew Geelong were offering 4.

[bulldogtragic]

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Received a renewed members email from Bains today. He very well highlights the many great things on field and off field over the passed few months - there's a lot. I like his public ambition of aiming for 50,000 members.

Forget the old hashtags, ours should now be #NoExcuses

[1eyedog]

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Even if Lukey D returns to something approaching his form, in terms of the trade we will probably be losers in years 1 and 2, but made to look like genius' beyond that. There is a concern with Dahlhaus that as he ages and he starts to lose his zip he doesn't have the tools to compensate in other areas. Aged 26 now, he should be at the peak of his powers from 28 onwards there will be a decline. He's not one I see playing much beyond 30.

One of the worst kicks in the AFL

[Testekill]

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Even if Lukey D returns to something approaching his form, in terms of the trade we will probably be losers in years 1 and 2, but made to look like genius' beyond that. There is a concern with Dahlhaus that as he ages and he starts to lose his zip he doesn't have the tools to compensate in other areas. Aged 26 now, he should be at the peak of his powers from 28 onwards there will be a decline. He's not one I see playing much beyond 30.

Think this was bang on although we came out fine in season one. Reckon Dahlhaus was borderline donezo with us and was due to fall off a cliff within those next couple of years.

[Twodogs]

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One of the worst kicks in the AFL

He's smart in his positioning and understands his limitations though so it's not a massive issue I reckon. I used to watch him when he played that small forward role and he would run to places on the field that he knew he could damage the opposition from. There were many times when he would look at the ball carrier and point to a certain spot on the ground he wanted the ball to be at. It didn't matter whether the ball hit him on the chest or rolled along the ground to him-he knew exactly how much time and space he needed to get the ball and slap it on his foot to kick a goal.

Dahl's big problem at the moment is he is trying to do too much. He spends it before he gets it. He's forgotten his limitations.

[S Coast Simon]

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The one thing I don’t understand anymore is everyone needs to be multi positional players. Sure I see you need to have a few that can dominate in a couple of positions. But what happened to the players just dominating a position and not being pretty good a three. Dalhaus was a great little forward that was a ferocious little bugger when he arrived. It was only when we tried to make him more of a midfielder that his flaws were exposed. Many of his goals didn’t fly through the air properly but straight enough for a goal that no one noticed the ball in flight. Once further up the field his kicking was exposed as not great. This should have been the sign that he should return to the forward line where he could get away with this. Instead we persisted to the point where he lost his love for the game and has moved on.
When Bevo arrived his greatest strength was that he made a game plan designed on the talents he had.( Buckley has done the opposite. He has turned over most of his list to get people that play his way ) Played boys where they thrived and won a premiership in his second year. Brilliant effort I must add by them all. But I wonder if Dalhaus had stayed closer to goal if he would be one of the premier small forward today. Not expecting much from him this year as young Miers has surprised with how he came on this year and gone past Dal. Geelong have taken on a fair contract with Dalhaus now that might hurt in the end.

[Twodogs]

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The one thing I don’t understand anymore is everyone needs to be multi positional players. Sure I see you need to have a few that can dominate in a couple of positions. But what happened to the players just dominating a position and not being pretty good a three. Dalhaus was a great little forward that was a ferocious little bugger when he arrived. It was only when we tried to make him more of a midfielder that his flaws were exposed. Many of his goals didn’t fly through the air properly but straight enough for a goal that no one noticed the ball in flight. Once further up the field his kicking was exposed as not great. This should have been the sign that he should return to the forward line where he could get away with this. Instead we persisted to the point where he lost his love for the game and has moved on.
When Bevo arrived his greatest strength was that he made a game plan designed on the talents he had.( Buckley has done the opposite. He has turned over most of his list to get people that play his way ) Played boys where they thrived and won a premiership in his second year. Brilliant effort I must add by them all. But I wonder if Dalhaus had stayed closer to goal if he would be one of the premier small forward today. Not expecting much from him this year as young Miers has surprised with how he came on this year and gone past Dal. Geelong have taken on a fair contract with Dalhaus now that might hurt in the end.

Yeah I don't understand that either. Tony Lockett only ever played one position in his life and even then he played it in a limited way and didn't run more than 30 metres away from the goalmouth. People will say "it was a different game back then" but you wouldn't knock a 25 yo Tony Lockett back if he turned up at your club and asked for a game today.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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We are grateful that Dahl is in select company being one of only 42 players to be part of a winning flag in over 90 years. Regrettably he was one of a number of players to lose their way after 2016. He was perhaps a little fortunate to secure a 4 year contract at Geelong.

[Bornadog]

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Yeah I don't understand that either. Tony Lockett only ever played one position in his life and even then he played it in a limited way and didn't run more than 30 metres away from the goalmouth. People will say "it was a different game back then" but you wouldn't knock a 25 yo Tony Lockett back if he turned up at your club and asked for a game today.

If the opposition gets the ball, the Full back will just run straight down the ground and become a loose man in the forward line leaving Tony sitting there waiting for the ball and hoping his team mates win back the ball.

[jeemak]

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The one thing I don’t understand anymore is everyone needs to be multi positional players. Sure I see you need to have a few that can dominate in a couple of positions. But what happened to the players just dominating a position and not being pretty good a three. Dalhaus was a great little forward that was a ferocious little bugger when he arrived. It was only when we tried to make him more of a midfielder that his flaws were exposed. Many of his goals didn’t fly through the air properly but straight enough for a goal that no one noticed the ball in flight. Once further up the field his kicking was exposed as not great. This should have been the sign that he should return to the forward line where he could get away with this. Instead we persisted to the point where he lost his love for the game and has moved on.
When Bevo arrived his greatest strength was that he made a game plan designed on the talents he had.( Buckley has done the opposite. He has turned over most of his list to get people that play his way ) Played boys where they thrived and won a premiership in his second year. Brilliant effort I must add by them all. But I wonder if Dalhaus had stayed closer to goal if he would be one of the premier small forward today. Not expecting much from him this year as young Miers has surprised with how he came on this year and gone past Dal. Geelong have taken on a fair contract with Dalhaus now that might hurt in the end.

I don't understand this.

By the time Bevo arrived in 2015 Dahl had already transitioned to a player who spent minutes in the midfield helping out and forward putting pressure on and trying to make the most of opportunities.

The reality is good specialist forwards have the discipline to nail opportunities after working really hard for them at the set shot, in addition to general play. Dahl due to his role and his poor set shot conversion rate just wasn't this player for us when we let him go.

Perhaps with more repetitive practice as a pure forward his set shot kicking may have gotten better, but I'm doubtful about that looking at his technique. He also was the subject of criticism from one of the most protective and reserved club hero commentators we have in Bob Murphy, when he was called out for lacking "motovation" (sic), you know, Dahl's response to that said more than Murphy's words.

The truth about Dahl is he was lucky to be a premiership player because he WAS versatile enough to put time into the middle of the ground instead of just being a forward, and he worked his arse off to be that versatile player. When he dropped off, which was his fault entirely, he lost the edge that actually made him really useful and effective, and for a player like him (and he'd know this) that's not enough to maintain a spot on a list like ours with the players we have coming through.

We are definitely better off without him, and with our current approach. The rumours are true, we had too many loose players at our club post 2016 and Dahl was one of them and it's good that he's been able to find a role in a top team and we've been able to regenerate in lieu of those loose players departing along with the retirements so quickly.

The regeneration of our list will possibly go down as one of the biggest master-strokes of list management and rejuvenation ever, if it comes off. Sure the club should be held to account for letting our situation post 2016 get so dire, however, irrespective of that we are a seriously good example of how in crises (which we clearly were after the premiership - as silly as that sounds, but, that's the thing about drugs and alcohol) a club can turn things around to challenge soon after huge turnover.

Without making players versatile, we'd be left with either the same talent pool all playing in defence or the middle, or cutting players and rebuilding again.