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  • dog town
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2007
    • 1914

    #16
    Re: WA football?

    Dont think Harvey is to blame. He coached them well enough to be in winning positions against us and Geelong. From that position its pretty much up to the players. They just stopped taking the game to us yesterday.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      #17
      Re: WA football?

      Originally posted by 1eyedog
      It's interesting isn't it. Harvey was the coach in waiting having been guided by the great coach of our era, Sheeds. He was so talked up Harvs and had so many wraps on him. I'm sure when he went to Freo he went purely for a new experience and probably felt obliged to take the role after C.C got the arse. He sort of just fell into it it seems. He must be absolutely devastated, but he had to try his arm at some stage.


      I always felt that Sheeds was damning him with faint praise. Talked his 'abilities' up until he left to coach another club and then that was one less club that Sheedy would have to worry about hurting his team.



      I was rapt when he turned us down because we dodged a bullet.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27654

        #18
        Re: WA football?

        Originally posted by dog town
        Dont think Harvey is to blame. He coached them well enough to be in winning positions against us and Geelong. From that position its pretty much up to the players. They just stopped taking the game to us yesterday.


        Harvey's been sucked into the very culture that Freo would have been hoping he'd fix. His defence of Josh Carr on Footy Classified a couple of weeks ago was schoolgirlish. The "He had every right to kick Ablett right in front of the umpire because the mean nasty Geelong players kept hitting his hand" was exactly the wrong thing to say in the circumstances. It should have been "Carr was stupid to do what he did and it's cost the club dearly-there will be a club imposed punishment on top of the five weeks(?) he got"


        Going on TV and attempting to defend the indefensible was ill advised and just plain stupid. I wont even go into the childish way he conducted himself for the rest of the interview.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • Stevo
          Senior Player
          • May 2008
          • 1040

          #19
          Re: WA football?

          Simply you cannot take out as many stars from a team like the Eagles and not expect a slide. It's been bigger than most of thought but they will right this next year.

          Harvey like many of us overrated the Fremantle list and thought a few more experienced guys would add to the depth and they would be fighting for a top 4 spot. They now need to start rebuilding again. Harvey has lost the protection that a number of the media were giving him and will have to get some results soon.

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          • FrediKanoute
            Coaching Staff
            • Aug 2007
            • 3826

            #20
            Re: WA football?

            Originally posted by Stevo
            Simply you cannot take out as many stars from a team like the Eagles and not expect a slide. It's been bigger than most of thought but they will right this next year.

            Harvey like many of us overrated the Fremantle list and thought a few more experienced guys would add to the depth and they would be fighting for a top 4 spot. They now need to start rebuilding again. Harvey has lost the protection that a number of the media were giving him and will have to get some results soon.
            Totally agree re the WCE - you take 2 star players out of any AFL side and they would fall in a heap....maybe only exception would be Geelong. They are well placed to pick up a couple of kids, get some more time into younger players and will probably trade away some of their established players who are going nowhere (most likely to Freo)

            Freo - where do you start. They are simply a disfunctional club with poor recruiting policies, lack of discipline and the inability to stick cosistently to a game plan. I liken Freo to the French Rugby Union side......on their day they can be absolutely brilliant, but you simply never know which Freo team is going to show up - the worldbeaters or chumps.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: WA football?

              Originally posted by Stevo
              Simply you cannot take out as many stars from a team like the Eagles and not expect a slide. It's been bigger than most of thought but they will right this next year.
              A slide from top 4 to bottom 4?
              They are missing 2/3 stars from a premeriship side? They are way better than bottom 4side and by rights they should be a finals sides. Its obvious they have given up in 2008 and will bounce back easily.

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #22
                Re: WA football?

                Originally posted by Stevo
                Simply you cannot take out as many stars from a team like the Eagles and not expect a slide. It's been bigger than most of thought but they will right this next year.
                They didn't have Cousins for most of 2007 and Judd couldn't get out of first gear and they were top 4.

                They'll be back soon so enjoy watching them lose while you can.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: WA football?

                  Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                  They didn't have Cousins for most of 2007 and Judd couldn't get out of first gear and they were top 4.

                  They'll be back soon so enjoy watching them lose while you can.
                  They only finished top four last year because of their great start to the year, they limped home from roughly round 15. Judd was BOG for the first 7wks, then got injured and struggled. Take out Cousins and JUdd, add a injured/suspended Kerr, injured Glass, injured Cox, injured Priddis, out of form Hansen, retired Chick ,retired R. Jones, out of form Q. lynch, injured Lecras, Embly's poor form etc etc.

                  There forward line has been a problem for 4 yrs, but they managed to get through with the midfield supply.

                  I dont think they will be back 'soon', they are to smart for that. They will rebuild properly, they wont rebuild to come back and finish 6th.

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    #24
                    Re: WA football?

                    Originally posted by jerry
                    They only finished top four last year because of their great start to the year, they limped home from roughly round 15. Judd was BOG for the first 7wks, then got injured and struggled. Take out Cousins and JUdd, add a injured/suspended Kerr, injured Glass, injured Cox, injured Priddis, out of form Hansen, retired Chick ,retired R. Jones, out of form Q. lynch, injured Lecras, Embly's poor form etc etc.

                    There forward line has been a problem for 4 yrs, but they managed to get through with the midfield supply.

                    I dont think they will be back 'soon', they are to smart for that. They will rebuild properly, they wont rebuild to come back and finish 6th.
                    Yep, thats true they had a great start last year before being very poor in the 2nd half of the year.

                    They got some excellent draft picks last year and will do the same this year.

                    I'd expect them to 2 do 1 of 2 things next year.

                    1. Come top 4.
                    2. Finish just outside the 8 if they don't believe they can finish top 4.

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