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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66707

    #46
    Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

    Originally posted by Topdog
    So everyone here knows what Shea can do?
    Not me, but obviously he is more than a property steward, otherwise he wouldn't be appointed to the role. I looked him up on LinkedIn but didn't learn too much.

    The one thing I learn't he doesn't look like property stewards of the past, ie a grumpy old man
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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14309

      #47
      Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

      Originally posted by Topdog
      So everyone here knows what Shea can do?
      Well he can obviously kick straight that's a given and goes well looking after the gear.
      Bring back the biff

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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #48
        Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

        Originally posted by Topdog
        So everyone here knows what Shea can do?
        He kicked 3 goals in 4 games this season with Old Eltham Collegians in the VAFA 5th division. So he has played the sport before. Plus working as the property steward you kind of pick up a bit of an idea of what to do just by hanging around.
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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21828

          #49
          Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

          None of this makes sense. Do we not have access to anyone in the football industry who would be considered qualified? Does it seem patronising towards semi-professional women to have an amateur footballer coaching their goal kicking?
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #50
            Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

            Originally posted by jeemak
            None of this makes sense. Do we not have access to anyone in the football industry who would be considered qualified? Does it seem patronising towards semi-professional women to have an amateur footballer coaching their goal kicking?
            Yes, but at least the women's team has someone for it. In the last few weeks I've read how we've identified poor goal kicking as a serious issue for both teams, but then we've gone about addressing it with a complete lack of seriousness.

            You can't help but feel if the sport was cricket and our issue was not bowling enough wicket keeping deliveries we'd address it or get a professional in to help.

            Considering goal kicking is vital to winning more, including finals, this would be addressed more comprehensively.
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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27654

              #51
              Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Yes, but at least the women's team has someone for it. In the last few weeks I've read how we've identified poor goal kicking as a serious issue for both teams, but then we've gone about addressing it with a complete lack of seriousness.

              You can't help but feel if the sport was cricket and our issue was not bowling enough wicket keeping deliveries we'd address it or get a professional in to help.

              Considering goal kicking is vital to winning more, including finals, this would be addressed more comprehensively.

              Sorry BT but do you mean wicket taking deliveries?

              I agree completely about the need for specialist tuition in goalkicking in particular. In fact I have been banging on about it for what seems like years. And years.


              And years.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #52
                Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                Sorry BT but do you mean wicket taking deliveries?

                I agree completely about the need for specialist tuition in goalkicking in particular. In fact I have been banging on about it for what seems like years. And years.


                And years.
                Yep. It's at least decades by my calculation.
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                • jazzadogs
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5645

                  #53
                  Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  None of this makes sense. Do we not have access to anyone in the football industry who would be considered qualified? Does it seem patronising towards semi-professional women to have an amateur footballer coaching their goal kicking?
                  They also have an amateur footballer as their senior coach if we're going down that track.

                  Let's be honest, none of us actually know what Shea's credentials are. Being the property steward doesn't mean he's unqualified - it might just mean he really wanted to get involved in an AFL club and saw that as a way in.

                  According to this 2014 column he "considered himself to be one of the best small forwards" Parade College had ever seen. Not sure why he's getting knocked around so much.

                  And he's Bont's best mate at the club. "Oh, and his best friend at the footy club is a property steward named Jayden Shea, who grew up near his Eltham home in neighbouring Montmorency."

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    #54
                    Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                    I don't get, it seems like we could hire someone like Jason Dunstall as a goalkicking coach and everyone would be excited despite having no idea if he can teach at all. Yet everyone is ready to shoot down this appointment because they don't know his skillset.

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14309

                      #55
                      Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                      Originally posted by Topdog
                      I don't get, it seems like we could hire someone like Jason Dunstall as a goalkicking coach and everyone would be excited despite having no idea if he can teach at all. Yet everyone is ready to shoot down this appointment because they don't know his skillset.
                      I'm not shooting it down I have no idea on his credentials , I was just having a laugh, seems comedy is a dying art and we have to be politically correct and careful we don't hurt anyone's feelings.
                      In the words of the joker " why so serious ?"
                      We did have peter Gordon serving in the canteen at A game once, we are a club full of multiskilled personal :-)
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #56
                        Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                        Originally posted by ledge
                        I'm not shooting it down I have no idea on his credentials , I was just having a laugh, seems comedy is a dying art and we have to be politically correct and careful we don't hurt anyone's feelings.
                        In the words of the joker " why so serious ?"
                        We did have peter Gordon serving in the canteen at A game once, we are a club full of multiskilled personal :-)
                        Surely you mean Commissionaire Gordon?
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14309

                          #57
                          Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Surely you mean Commissionaire Gordon?
                          Chef Gordon better than that other Gordon who thinks he can cook.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • BornInDroopSt'54
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 5257

                            #58
                            Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                            Stuart Lowe; Levi Casboult. Two atrocious kicks with their natural style who were taught to change with greater sucess. I am sure goalkicking is teachable.
                            All top golfers and tennis players have coaches. The skills they teach involve drills. Our forwards would greatly benefit from forward coach led goal kicking drills.Our current conversion is unacceptable, in fact trash. Goal kicking accuracy and its coaching is a clear area where we can get a jump on the comp, especially given our proficiency at forward entries. Now, this very preseason, is our opportunity. I want to see goal kicking drills at
                            practice sessions.
                            Incidently that guy in jail's gravy won't be missed. Someone else will make the gravy with Gravox, proabably the guy with too much after shave and the others won't care cos they don't make gravy.
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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27654

                              #59
                              Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                              Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                              Stuart Lowe; Levi Casboult. Two atrocious kicks with their natural style who were taught to change with greater sucess. I am sure goalkicking is teachable.
                              All top golfers and tennis players have coaches. The skills they teach involve drills. Our forwards would greatly benefit from forward coach led goal kicking drills.Our current conversion is unacceptable, in fact trash. Goal kicking accuracy and its coaching is a clear area where we can get a jump on the comp, especially given our proficiency at forward entries. Now, this very preseason, is our opportunity. I want to see goal kicking drills at
                              practice sessions.
                              Incidently that guy in jail's gravy won't be missed. Someone else will make the gravy with Gravox, proabably the guy with too much after shave and the others won't care cos they don't make gravy.

                              The gravy is a metaphor isn't it? For Christmas and the issues it invarably dredges up.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • BornInDroopSt'54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 5257

                                #60
                                Re: Do we have a goal kicking coach?

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                The gravy is a metaphor isn't it? For Christmas and the issues it invarably dredges up.
                                How true that is. A metaphor for jail too. I still think we need goal kicking drills.
                                Footscray Football Republic.

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