The Bulldogs demise

[boydogs]

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Richmond were the best team of the finals series but not the best team of the year. Same as us in 2016. Martin was incredible in September and made them enormously dangerous in transition, so they could sit back and defend then counterattack. They're a bit toothless without Martin at his best

[jeemak]

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Richmond were the best team of the finals series but not the best team of the year. Same as us in 2016. Martin was incredible in September and made them enormously dangerous in transition, so they could sit back and defend then counterattack. They're a bit toothless without Martin at his best

Difference between them and us is that early we showed we were equal to anyone in the league, if not better, and then won at Subiaco and Homebush in elimination finals versus home finals (where we barely played at the ground, rather than have it as our home ground). Who does that, seriously?

[boydogs]

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Difference between them and us is that early we showed we were equal to anyone in the league, if not better, and then won at Subiaco and Homebush in elimination finals versus home finals (where we barely played at the ground, rather than have it as our home ground). Who does that, seriously?

True, their finals percentage was insane though. You'd still pick us as having the better finals series with 4 games and 2 interstate but they just owned September

[Twodogs]

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Difference between them and us is that early we showed we were equal to anyone in the league, if not better, and then won at Subiaco and Homebush in elimination finals versus home finals (where we barely played at the ground, rather than have it as our home ground). Who does that, seriously?

True, their finals percentage was insane though. You'd still pick us as having the better finals series with 4 games and 2 interstate but they just owned September

I wonder if our September '16 team would have beaten Richmond's '17 team?

[ledge]

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I wonder if our September '16 team would have beaten Richmond's '17 team?

They haven't beaten us in years and I think we would have as we were harder at the ball, especially if we played them in the grand final,they played a very slow tall Adelaide who turned up with no hunger, thinking it was won before they entered the arena and all their players waited for other players to stand up.
Couldn't see Rance cutting off our forward thrusts as you couldn't read the way we entered the forward line.
Can't remember which opposition coach said it but they admitted how can you set up your backline to our forward line when we had no actual plan forward we just bombed it in all different ways.

[Twodogs]

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They haven't beaten us in years and I think we would have as we were harder at the ball, especially if we played them in the grand final,they played a very slow tall Adelaide who turned up with no hunger, thinking it was won before they entered the arena and all their players waited for other players to stand up.
Couldn't see Rance cutting off our forward thrusts as you couldn't read the way we entered the forward line.
Can't remember which opposition coach said it but they admitted how can you set up your backline to our forward line when we had no actual plan forward we just bombed it in all different ways.

From memory it was Al Clarkson in between whinging about the umpiring.

I don't rate Rance. He's good but he could be much better.

[Bornadog]

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I wonder if our September '16 team would have beaten Richmond's '17 team?

Clay Smith with 4 and a few assists, Adams up forward to kick a couple. Bring them on in 2018 and we will crush them.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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I wonder if our September '16 team would have beaten Richmond's '17 team?

I know it's an age old argument - comparing teams from different year - that noone will ever answer. But without bias we would dominate the 2017 tigers. Seriously, the 2017 season, particularly the 2017 finals, was extremely weak. Not a single team was ever consistent through the season. There were lots of close games because no teams were elite rather than lots of teams being good. I've never seen a finals series like this years. It really didnt feel like a normal finals series as i felt the quality was poor and i struggled to maintain interest (not sure if there were any effects of it being the first finals series since we won our flag). Add to the fact Richmond played all their finals games at the MCG vs our 2 interstate and none at our home ground. The GWS version they played was way more inferior to the version we played. We knocked off two modern, proven-champions and a team that rarely loses finals at home. They defeated a team that flops in finals and a team that had zero grand final experience.

[Bornadog]

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I know it's an age old argument - comparing teams from different year - that noone will ever answer. But without bias we would dominate the 2017 tigers. Seriously, the 2017 season, particularly the 2017 finals, was extremely weak. Not a single team was ever consistent through the season. There were lots of close games because no teams were elite rather than lots of teams being good. I've never seen a finals series like this years. It really didnt feel like a normal finals series as i felt the quality was poor and i struggled to maintain interest (not sure if there were any effects of it being the first finals series since we won our flag). Add to the fact Richmond played all their finals games at the MCG vs our 2 interstate and none at our home ground. The GWS version they played was way more inferior to the version we played. We knocked off two modern, proven-champions and a team that rarely loses finals at home. They defeated a team that flops in finals and a team that had zero grand final experience.

Plus on average we were 20 games per player less experienced than all the other finalists.

[Remi Moses]

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Lot of chit chat this time of year
Bookmark Hardwick’s comments

[Twodogs]

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Lot of chit chat this time of year
Bookmark Hardwick’s comments

Yep, nail his colours to the mast. Beating a man to death with his own words is always fun.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Not much in it other than some poor word choices.

Still - we should print out a copy and have it ready to go for when we play Richmond.

[Rocco Jones]

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Not much in it other than some poor word choices.

Still - we should print out a copy and have it ready to go for when we play Richmond.

Yep. I think ironic that posters slamming him back by not giving Tigers as much respect as they deserve.

Both awesome achievements. He has probably been asked a couple of hundred times (literally) about this and slipped up. It's our media, asked a million questions a million times and find some catchy quotes.

[Twodogs]

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Yep. I think ironic that posters slamming him back by not giving Tigers as much respect as they deserve.

Both awesome achievements. He has probably been asked a couple of hundred times (literally) about this and slipped up. It's our media, asked a million questions a million times and find some catchy quotes.

Yep, it's a lack of discipline on Dimma's behalf for sure. I completely agree.

[comrade]

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Who cares what Hardwick thinks. We sucked in 2017, so its not like he said anything we don't know.