Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

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  • Prince Imperial
    Senior Player
    • Nov 2007
    • 1022

    #1

    Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

    Maribyrnong Council will be meeting tonight to examine the Edgewater application however the Council's own planning officers have recommended that the application be rejected. There are a number of bases to this including; the location of the gaming machines next to a shopping centre, the number of gaming machines in the immediate Maribyrnong area which is a poor community and concerns about the number of car parking spaces and traffic in adjoining streets. You can look at the lengthy discussion under the heading "31 Edgewater Blvd..." in the below link:

    http://www.maribyrnong.vic.gov.au/Fi...nda_200508.pdf

    I can't see the Council going against these recommendations given there are over 300 objections to the proposal. Given the importance of poker machine revenue this is bad news for the club and I'm not sure there is any plan B to relocate the existing machines at the Whitten Oval to any other venue.
    Last edited by Prince Imperial; 20-05-2008, 01:27 PM.
  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

    The club has been working on this for at least two years. It's very disappointing that there is such robust objection to it from Council Officers.

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    • Prince Imperial
      Senior Player
      • Nov 2007
      • 1022

      #3
      Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

      It is disappointing. I took a look at the site a few weeks back and it seems a fair distance from any of the currently located homes with one side a supermarket and another side earmarked for office type development. It is difficult to see that any new gaming venue would be allowed to open up in the Maribyrnong council area given the restrictions the officers have referred to.

      I can understand the concern re car parking and I think this aspect of the proposal in having far less spaces than is normally required was just asking for trouble.

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #4
        Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

        Originally posted by Prince Imperial
        It is disappointing. I took a look at the site a few weeks back and it seems a fair distance from any of the currently located homes with one side a supermarket and another side earmarked for office type development. It is difficult to see that any new gaming venue would be allowed to open up in the Maribyrnong council area given the restrictions the officers have referred to.

        I can understand the concern re car parking and I think this aspect of the proposal in having far less spaces than is normally required was just asking for trouble.
        Is 296 car spaces not many?

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        • Prince Imperial
          Senior Player
          • Nov 2007
          • 1022

          #5
          Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          Is 296 car spaces not many?
          It is when the planning scheme requires 521 spots for the uses that the development would involve and there are insufficient spaces for peak use based upon a consultant's report provided by Tattersalls itself as part of the application.

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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11960

            #6
            Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

            No...bad news...crap.
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • Prince Imperial
              Senior Player
              • Nov 2007
              • 1022

              #7
              Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

              For those interested, a copy of Tattersall's and our proposal is available on the Edgewater Community Association website:

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                Sounded too good to be true.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                  This is very disapointing to hear. It would have been good for us to have something like that.

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                  • Prince Imperial
                    Senior Player
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1022

                    #10
                    Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                    Let's hope the club has done enough lobbying that the Council is willing to approve the venue with some modifications (a slightly smaller building, more car parking etc) despite the recommendations.

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      #11
                      Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                      Originally posted by firstdogonthemoon
                      Its a pity about the venue in general - but pokies are a gift from Satan. I have blathered on elsewhere about footy clubs not (at least us) not gaining advantage from pokies money.

                      I just hope they can work something else out.

                      It would also be good to not have the machines at Whitten oval.
                      It would be good if someone came along and gave us a whole lot of money but it ain't gonna happen

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11960

                        #12
                        Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        It would be good if someone came along and gave us a whole lot of money but it ain't gonna happen
                        Why does Carlton get a bankroller and not us. Surely we deserve one more.

                        Does he see money to be made of them?
                        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67691

                          #13
                          Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                          'Well we need to rethink the Hilton and see how else we can make money. Does it have to be by way of gambling?
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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7483

                            #14
                            Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                            Originally posted by firstdogonthemoon
                            Remember the Rodent? Remember the $20 million of tax payers money?
                            Funny that, I don't recall us actually receiving a cent of that money.

                            To the best of my knowledge our contract for pokies runs for a few years yet so if this gets rejected could we be in more finanicial trouble due to breaking a contract?

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Bulldogs Hilton Likely to be Sunk

                              Other clubs aren't stupid they have moved into the west with their pookies ie Caroline Springs, Sanctuary Lakes.
                              Was wasn't there a fuss about these venues?

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