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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66700

    Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

    Herald Sun
    Mark Robinson | May 21, 2008 12:00am

    AFL players have been banned from scouring fan websites, for fear the vicious player appraisals could lead to depression. At one club, support staff also have been threatened with the sack if they are caught blogging or leaking valuable information to the websites.

    Labelled "cyber bullying" and "big brother" blogging by the AFL Players' Association, clubs have taken the drastic step of encouraging a boycott of the popular fan sites.

    "I wouldn't encourage any players to use them. I think it's for bloggers, and I think it's mostly for titillation rather any decent feedback," AFLPA general manager of psychology, people and culture, Pippa Grange said yesterday.

    "It's more your big brother-type trivia.

    "I would agree with coaches telling players not to look, but I would also encourage the players not to think of it in any way as criticism - it's just a random sample of people with not much better to do."

    Most football clubs have independent supporter websites, including Saintsational, TalkingCarlton, Demonology, Punt Road End, Nick's Collingwood Page and and Bomberblitz.

    One of the most popular is BigFooty.

    On them, anonymous bloggers ritually attack players for their performances, and the criticisms sometimes carry racial and sexual overtones.

    One coach, who did not want to draw attention to his players, yesterday said: "They get real nasty."

    The coach said he was aware of one player receiving "particularly scathing" criticism and he had approached the player and asked if he was aware of it.

    "Thankfully, he said it didn't matter because he didn't read it, but bloody oath, it could affect the player," the coach said. "It's a serious issue, a major issue.

    "Even if one player gets depression, or his form falls away, it could end his career."

    One club official last night confirmed the coach had directed some of his players to stop reading sites.

    "Yes, we have suggested to some players they avoid online fan sites," the official said.

    A football manager from another club said he had addressed the issue with the players.

    He also revealed he had warned support staff that if they leaked information to websites, or people knowingly connected to the websites, they would be sacked.

    "We have said, 'Whatever you know is not to be passed on to people outside the club'," he said.

    He said players had to avoid any scathing critiques.

    "It's like critical fan mail, it could do your head in, and it's the same thing with websites.

    "You should read some of it, it's rubbish.

    "You've got to understand the ego of players and fragility comes with that as well."

    Grange yesterday said AFL footballers were in the "culture of celebrities".

    "And there's a lot of nasty stuff out there," she said.

    She likens it to cyber bullying at schools, where there are alarming cases of bullying bringing on forms of depression and even attempted suicide.

    "There's no restriction of what people are able to do with the internet," Grange said.

    "Blogging on websites about players is a form of bullying, it's public bullying of people in celebrity positions.

    "And the footy players, unless they personally take some course of investigation, have got absolutely no comeback."

    Grange said public criticism of players had been addressed, although cyber criticism hadn't specifically been on the agenda.

    "We talk to the players about building resilience about feedback and what they need to let through to the keeper, and what's actually value for them and how they make a choice about each," she said.

    "We don't specifically focus on websites, but that's going to happen with our digital lifestyle at the minute."

    More serious, she said, were players' identities being taken by bloggers.

    "The biggest thing I've encountered in my role where it's been a problem is where people take the identity of the player and claim to be making comments on behalf of the player," she said.

    "They get obviously quite upset about that."

    ANYONE with personal problems can call Lifelineon 131 114; Victorian Statewide Suicide Helpline on 1300 651 251; or Mensline Australia on 1300 789 978.
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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66700

    #2
    Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

    Hopefully we keep our criticism civil and dont just bag players. (pretty sure we do).

    Some of the rubbish on other websites is enough to drive anyone to depression.

    I know some players have browsed our website so please keep up the good work and make all criticism constructive.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66700

      #3
      Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

      Originally posted by aker39
      I don't think it happens on here, but I can tell you Jordan McMahon copped a flogging on another site.
      I saw that and it is disgraceful.


      I put this post up as a reminder to keep up the high standard we practise.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • ledge
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 14304

        #4
        Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

        Hopefully Rodney likes ours and if we do criticize it is constructive and of use.
        To all our bloggers including myself we should try to keep this article in the back of our heads when talking about players.
        As much as the article is all negative there is information that i believe also helps players in some blogs, works both ways eg what about when we mention a player in a good way ,surely that gives him confidence.
        But the papers wouldnt mention that would they?
        Bring back the biff

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #5
          Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

          Another reminder for the mods to make sure this type of thing is not tolerated.

          I like it that we're better than the other sites.

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          • Bulldog Revolution
            Coaching Staff
            • Dec 2006
            • 3925

            #6
            Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
            Another reminder for the mods to make sure this type of thing is not tolerated.

            I like it that we're better than the other sites.
            Here, here, resorting to rubbish is not what we want to do, and its a credit to the leadership of this board

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13235

              #7
              Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

              Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
              Here, here, resorting to rubbish is not what we want to do, and its a credit to the leadership of this board
              and to the quality of the people who post here
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14304

                #8
                Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                Hey theres a compliment, i just got called quality, i will take that thank you very much!
                Bring back the biff

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #9
                  Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  and to the quality of the people who post here
                  Except Ledge.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66700

                    #10
                    Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                    Currently being discussed on SEN with Shaun Higgins. He says the players don't take any notice of the negative sites or listen to talk back etc.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14304

                      #11
                      Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      Except Ledge.
                      Cos i am special.
                      Hey sockeye makes 2 of us.
                      No quality but quantity, cant have both.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14304

                        #12
                        Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Currently being discussed on SEN with Shaun Higgins. He says the players don't take any notice of the negative sites or listen to talk back etc.
                        So that means in code he was saying they all read WOOF!
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11245

                          #13
                          Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                          I found the article to be terribly biased and self-serving to the media. Most football fans know that the journos trawl through these sites religiously to chase their next Walkley Award winning scoops. To bite off the hand that constantly feeds them is poor form in the extreme and only validates the media's fear of become completely irrelevent when it comes to reporting information of any worth to the football fan.

                          Yes there are some acidic elements of vitriol sometimes posted on these sites, but even the poorly controlled sites have a high percentege of quality posters who have an interest and a passion in the players and the game itself. I'd rather hear about the players, the up-coming match-ups and on-field tactical innovations than hear about the off-field 'personalities' that make up this game. Witness this piece of utter fluff as an example of exactly what I don't want to read about when it comes to football:

                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                            To say nothing of the piece about Acker's bum

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11841

                              #15
                              Re: Players cop a blogging - not from this site, or do we?

                              Originally posted by aker39
                              I don't think it happens on here, but I can tell you Jordan McMahon copped a flogging on another site.
                              The quotes in the paper were about him on BF.
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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