JLT Practise Match 1, v Hawthorn

[The Adelaide Connection]

Re: JLT Practise Match 1, v Hawthorn

Lots to like, but I was most impressed by our ability to kick a score despite the heavy tinkering and rotation of players through the forwardline.

I was disappointed that we didn’t get a look at a few more recruits (or even any of the class of ‘16) and that they didn’t get a run in the Friday night Footscray fixture. I guess the shortening of JLT to two fixtures has a lot to do with that, but hopefully we get a look at a few more next week.

[GVGjr]

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Did O' Meara play for Hawthorn?

Yes, he did OK.

[choconmientay]

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Did O' Meara play for Hawthorn?

Yes he did. He could be seen in the team photo in the middle. Don't think he got much impact as I didn't notice him much.

[ledge]

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He got 16 possessions 8 kicks 8 handballs, 4 tackles ,wouldn't be putting in 100% with his injury record so I would say that's a very good game from him.
He is a superstar no doubt.

[ledge]

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Must say I thought Richo had come out of retirement, looking at Isaac Smith, spitting image !

[GVGjr]

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It was a very interesting forward set-up today, perhaps a variation of the success we had 2016 where we basically out rotated opposition teams in the midfield. This was more about constantly changing things up in our forward line and it seemed to have worked.
The standard of the game wasn't about intensity though so there might be a question mark on if it will hold up against other teams

We started Trengove as the lone tall forward and it seems to be the plan to play him as tall forward rotating in the ruck.
I think we need to play another genuine tall up forward though
Wood across half forward was another left of field trial. It didn't quite work today but we should probably stick with it.
We also had Macrae, Bontempelli, Dale and Honeychurch rotating through early in the game.

Dunkley was very good and the Hawks struggled to hold him.

In the back line I really enjoyed the effort from Naughton. Crozier was desperate and athletic and Adams was solid.

Back to the forward line, does anyone think are we going to try an extend teams with a few 190cm type players that compete well on the ground?

[ledge]

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Does anyone think Sicily should have got reported for the stomach punch to Dale ?
I thought I heard the AFL was clamping down on cheap shots especially punches.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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It was a very interesting forward set-up today, perhaps a variation of the success we had 2016 where we basically out rotated opposition teams in the midfield. This was more about constantly changing things up in our forward line and it seemed to have worked.
The standard of the game wasn't about intensity though so there might be a question mark on if it will hold up against other teams

We started Trengove as the lone tall forward and it seems to be the plan to play him as tall forward rotating in the ruck.
I think we need to play another genuine tall up forward though
Wood across half forward was another left of field trial. It didn't quite work today but we should probably stick with it.
We also had Macrae, Bontempelli, Dale and Honeychurch rotating through early in the game.

Dunkley was very good and the Hawks struggled to hold him.

In the back line I really enjoyed the effort from Naughton. Crozier was desperate and athletic and Adams was solid.

Back to the forward line, does anyone think are we going to try an extend teams with a few 190cm type players that compete well on the ground?

Bevo is obviously looking for more flexibility in our structure by being willing to move players between back and forward. Our defence struggled in the first half without the likes of Murphy Morris Wood and JJ and it was left to the likes of Williams and Biggs to hold it together. Crozier did very well and should become a regular. There is still a lack of a genuine key forward with Redpath Schache T Boyd Adams and Trengrove all expected to take turns. It was good to see Dunkley Liberatore and Dahlhaus break the shackles after an indifferent 2017. Libba and Dauhl are vital in giving support to the Bont and Macrae in the midfield. Roughead was good in the ruck and he was another that missed games last year. The Club would seem to have more depth this year with the likes of Naughton Crozier Trengrove and Schache being good additions.

[hujsh]

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Yeah Crozier looked good defensively and since his selling point is is disposal and rebound that's a great sign. Should get plenty of games this year.

[Flamethrower]

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Does anyone think Sicily should have got reported for the stomach punch to Dale ?
I thought I heard the AFL was clamping down on cheap shots especially punches.

I'd be more concerned about whomever put Tom Mitchell down behind play late in the last quarter. It wasn't captured in the live footage, but I am sure the behind the goals vision (if any) will show why other Hawthorn players remonstrated with the culprit.

[GVGjr]

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Bevo is obviously looking for more flexibility in our structure by being willing to move players between back and forward. Our defence struggled in the first half without the likes of Murphy Morris Wood and JJ and it was left to the likes of Williams and Biggs to hold it together. Crozier did very well and should become a regular. There is still a lack of a genuine key forward with Redpath Schache T Boyd Adams and Trengrove all expected to take turns. It was good to see Dunkley Liberatore and Dahlhaus break the shackles after an indifferent 2017. Libba and Dauhl are vital in giving support to the Bont and Macrae in the midfield. Roughead was good in the ruck and he was another that missed games last year. The Club would seem to have more depth this year with the likes of Naughton Crozier Trengrove and Schache being good additions.

I must admit I was a bit underwhelmed in the performance of Dahlhaus and I didn't think Roughead was all that good either even with his limited time. I've just looked at his stats and he had just 4 disposals, 2 marks and 5 hit outs although this was topped off by 5 tackles. I'm fairly certain he will be our first option in the ruck

We need Roughy, Dahl and Liberatore firing this year.

I would have liked to have seen a bit more of Schache yesterday but I believe

[Twodogs]

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Yes, he did OK.

Cheers G.

Yes he did. He could be seen in the team photo in the middle. Don't think he got much impact as I didn't notice him much.

He got 16 possessions 8 kicks 8 handballs, 4 tackles ,wouldn't be putting in 100% with his injury record so I would say that's a very good game from him.
He is a superstar no doubt.

They have payed a huge price for him. Usually I'd go with the fortune favours the bold school and say good luck to them. But it's Hawthorn and they have plenty of luck.

It was a very interesting forward set-up today, perhaps a variation of the success we had 2016 where we basically out rotated opposition teams in the midfield. This was more about constantly changing things up in our forward line and it seemed to have worked.
The standard of the game wasn't about intensity though so there might be a question mark on if it will hold up against other teams

We started Trengove as the lone tall forward and it seems to be the plan to play him as tall forward rotating in the ruck.
I think we need to play another genuine tall up forward though
Wood across half forward was another left of field trial. It didn't quite work today but we should probably stick with it.
We also had Macrae, Bontempelli, Dale and Honeychurch rotating through early in the game.

Dunkley was very good and the Hawks struggled to hold him.

In the back line I really enjoyed the effort from Naughton. Crozier was desperate and athletic and Adams was solid.

Back to the forward line, does anyone think are we going to try an extend teams with a few 190cm type players that compete well on the ground?

I think you're right that's exactly what we did, we rotated the forward line the way we usually rotate midfielders trying to create mismatchesin attack.

[Go_Dogs]

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Interesting take on the forward method this year GVG.

I think to generate goals we need multiple players who can rotate forward, find the right match up and exploit it - so having depth, not letting defences settle and utilising our parts and pieces style attack is a good option for us. Im sure once Dickson etc come back we'll have a few more who play predominately forward, but again, maybe that's why we didn't see Red, Smith and Dicko yesterday.

Mobile 190cm players who can do it in the air and ground level are always important and great to see Dunkley do well playing this role yesterday. He was important as a kid in the 2016 finals (would've been in our best 10 throughout the campaign) and excited to see what he can deliver this year - could be our 30+ goal scorer.


Thanks to all for your reports and commentary - good reading through it all this morning.

[Bornadog]

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Back to the forward line, does anyone think are we going to try an extend teams with a few 190cm type players that compete well on the ground?

It will be interesting to see how we set up next week against Collingwood. Boyd is sure to come and maybe even Repath. I agree Schache should have had more game time.

Yesterday both the Bont and Macrae spent time in the forward line which also stretched the Hawks.

From The Age

The move of Wood was the biggest surprise and he took until the 20-minute mark of the second quarter to touch the ball. But the 28-year-old gradually worked his way into the game, kicking a goal and showing his aerial skills at times in the final quarter.Assistant coach Daniel Giansiracusa, who made his living as a crafty forward, said they wanted to give Wood a chance in the role knowing they can always swing him back in games if needed.


"He's a pretty good swingman. We're going to give him a crack at it there," Giansiracusa said.
"[He is] a pretty powerful and quick player so he is going to put defences on edge as well. He is going to continue to learn and it will take time."

So looks like we will see if the Wood experiment works and if not back to the back line.

One thing I didn't like, especially in the first quarter was how easily the ball transitioned from our forward line to the back line. This has been a problem for a few years now, but is what happens when you play risky attacking footy.

[Smads57]

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I'd be more concerned about whomever put Tom Mitchell down behind play late in the last quarter. It wasn't captured in the live footage, but I am sure the behind the goals vision (if any) will show why other Hawthorn players remonstrated with the culprit.

I was at the game and the incident was in front of me with Macrae being the culprit - if you watch the replay you will see them pushing and shoving a few times during the game.