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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18880

    10 minutes of madness in Perth - home and away edition. (not with Alf Stewart)

    Hi Woofers,

    Decided to take a look at the latest edition of "The Unperthening" from the weekend to see if it helps us avoid costly therapy fees.

    This is from the Treacy behind at 17:35 (7:34 to go) with the score at Dogs 38 Freo 33 to the Sharp goal with 0:06 to go and the dockers have really gapped us. Harmes had just pulled a goal out of his you know where on the boundary prior to this.

    Enjoy?


    Game Notes



    Q2 18:02
    Fremantle have attempted to slow the game down in this second quarter playing on from just 7% of their marks compared to 30% in the first quarter.
    Q2 32:54



    The Dockers were incredible from stoppage from the 16-minute mark of the quarter winning seven of the last eight clearances and scoring 3.2 (20) from stoppage in that time whilst keeping the Bulldogs scoreless.
    Q2 32:54



    Fremantle were dangerous inside 50 this term, scoring from 63% of their entries and kicking a goal from 44% of their entries whilst also keeping the Bulldogs to a goal from just 14% of their entries.
    Coach Press Conference
    Bevo :
    • Couldn't get any delay on how the Sherrin came out of our forward line.
    • Uncharacteristic, broken tackles, and they played through us way too easily.
    • Rebound goals - symptomatic of how we used the footy, they were able to trampoline out as we blatantly gave it back to them or missed our chance.
    • Serong he said we had a negative tone with a couple of our mids, but we weren't able to sustain it and this is something we’ve been prone to do.
    • Talking generally - the boys would like one or two moments back and would be thinking we could have done more in the game, talking about source pressure or when it's your opportunity to spoil, those moments add up and the boys will reflect on them. The stats don't tell you what actually happened and it's the what we need to get better at.

    Review
    Treacy behind at 17:35 (7:34)
    • Dogs kick out works up to mark to Kennedy on the wing.
    • English runs for handball Kennedy obliges, docker player Brayshaw drops off LVDM and pressures English causing short handbull and LVDM turnover.

    • Creates the overlap as Bramble comes up to cover and eventually it gets to Frederick in the pocket who scores a goal. We actually covered this off ok, but the kick into f50 from Reid was perfect in behind Dale and Khamis couldn't defend. It was a nice goal from Frederick from the pocket. (6:34) Goal from turnover (LVDM)

    • Centre bounce pretty neutral tap it heads attacking side and Serong gets the contested ball, Johnson does well to push Sanders under the contest. Serong to Jackson, Jackson a scubby handball to Johnson that is pressured and eventually Brayshaw picks up the contested ball runs defensive side and gives to Clarke off HB who launches inside 50 deep to 25 out where Lobb and Amiss compete. The balls spills over the back and Dudley snaps a ripper. (6:10) Jones actually sees him, and back peddles instead of picking him up and he was the closest defender. Goal from stoppage (centre)
    • Centre bounce with 6:10 on the clock.
    • Looks like Kennedy has the job on Serong here, Libba Brayshaw and Libba goes negative, Kennedy still on the attacking side of Serong.
    • This was a disaster, Jackson wins the tap straight down Serong's throat on the fat side who easily discards Kennedy, and hands to Johnson who easily pushes Sanders under the contest again.

    • Johnson uses his pace and burns past a very slow Kennedy takes a few bounces and drives it deep forward.
    • Lobb eventually gets the contested ball but gives a hospital handpass to Davidson who is tackled and penalised for holding the ball to O'Driscoll however it really was a stiff free he appeared to handball. The umpire basically guessed.
    • O'Driscoll misses. Kickout.
    • Bramble with the kick out 5:24 on the clock
    • Clear out to outer wing with Bramble kicking to Khamis, then running past for the receive and lacing Harmes.
    • Harmes long to McNeil however Ryan peels off and intercepts with a big spoil (in the back for mine umpire!)
    • We win back the contested ball and McNeil delivers long to no-one and it's another wasted entry rushed through for a point. I feel something bad is coming.
    • Dockers kick out 4:55 on the clock.
    • Standard dockers kickout play to the bench side to talls. Jackson in this case. Somehow Treacy is on his own out the back of play hiding under a blade of grass.
    • Dogs have three talls in the area, Lobb, Jones and English plus Williams. Jones miss-times the spoil and takes Lobb out of the play, Williams is inexplicably drawn into the contest. Treacy is on his own out the back, Khamis is protecting the exit. He sees Treacy but stays where he is.
    • Bramble looks like he is up on a wing at this point?
    • Balls spills attacking side, Reid wins contested ball easily gets around English's tackle attempts, handpasses to Brayshaw who has Williams right on his hammer but basically gives up running. Libba and Kennedy the other two in the area just didn't have the speed to go with them and had nothing to give.
    • Brayshaw does the 1 - 2 with Voss, continues on and delivers by foot to a free Treacy 20 out on his own who goals. Freo go coast to coast. Stoppage goal (KICK OUT!)
    • Next CB 4:31 on the clock
    • Freo win centre clearance through Serong again. Our setup doesn't seem to change much. Same players in there.
    • Jackson wins the tap easily (ok English is shitting me now) straight down Brayshaws throat as Richard's run attacking side and leaves him hoping for the tap win. Why we didn't go full defense here is beyond me.
    • Libba who IS defending Serong loses him and Brayshaw finds him for the clearance.
    • We regain possession after a Freo turnover in the f50 through Baker. The ball ends up back with Baker who marks a back pass from Sanders. Then….for some unknown reason and yes now I am adding opinion he takes off like a rabbit and turns it over with a dreadful high looping handball boundary side that is easily cut off by a Dockers player Ryan ( the intercept king).
    • URGH! Sanders was trying to slow it down…….

    • Ryan delivers to Bolton inside 50. He misses and there's a deep f50 stop.
    • Ruck is pretty much even, in fact I think English probably wins it as it goes where he's aiming away from goal but there's no dogs there and Banfield who is given space by teams mate blocking brilliantly (O' Meara on Williams, Bolton on Libba) waltzes through and snaps a great goal. Why Baker is standing on his own there and not blocking the biggest exit is a question.
    • Williams was with Banfield. Dockers worked this really well, bit of luck where the ball dropped.



    • Red arrows denote blocking from O'Meara on Williams and Bolton on Libba to open the space for Banfield. Goal from stoppage. (F50)

    • 3:09 to go margin blown out to 19 points (58-39)
    • Next 2:30 it's a bit of a scrap. We had our chance inside 50, however Freijah completely butchered a kick to a open lead and it was rebounded.
    • At around 0:49 to go we clear from defence, Williams delivers a perfect kick to a leading Naughton in acres of space and…..he drops a sitter. Note the direction our guys are heading. Killer.

    • His direct opponent Cox gathers and the dockers work it out via handball chains to a free Wagner who delivers inside 50.
    • Khamis is blinded by the sun. Poor Buku but sums up this period.

    • Treacy gathers and handballs to a running Brayshaw for a goal. (0:31 on the clock margin 20 points). Big goal in his 150th and all the Dockers players get to him. Game over here really. Goal from TURNOVER (Naughton)






    • Sanders has given Brayshaw a leg rope here although he's not on his pat malone. We really lack midfield speed.

    • Next CB, Libba, Richards, Kennedy v Bolton, Brayshaw, Serong.
    • English probably gets the better of the tap, it's not clean however to our advantage however Kennedy fumbles as he is attacking through off Serong and Libba loses Bolton who ends up with it and delivers inside 50.
    • Clear mark here not paid to Baker, ball spills and Freijah gathers but loses it under pressure from O'Meara (very under rated what he does O'Meara)







    • Brayshaw swoops in and gets an insanely good contested handball over the Sharp holding his width on the outside and he kicks a very nice goal.
    • Sharp goal at 31:43 ( 0:06 on the clock). No further play of interest.




    Amazing really !

    Discuss
    Attached Files
    BT COME BACK!​
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66080

    #2
    Thanks, GG. It was a 10-minute spell that dented our chances of winning. You have shown all the little things that can go wrong, and Freo is seizing the opportunity.

    Serong was always the danger man, and we couldn't stop him.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18880

      #3
      They started adding stoppage goals to their turnover goals and we couldn't stem the flow.

      We gifted them a couple that Naughton dropped mark and the English handball my lord.

      Edit : Baker handball too yuk
      Last edited by Grantysghost; 08-04-2025, 01:01 PM.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66080

        #4
        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        They started adding stoppage goals to their turnover goals and we couldn't stem the flow.

        We gifted them a couple that Naughton dropped mark and the English handball my lord.
        I still think the back 6 were in a little disarray, throughout the match, without Doc controlling the players and coaching them where they should be.

        With Doc's career coming to an end, who will take over his important role
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • mjp
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7304

          #5
          It's a truly epic post mate.

          Just to respond to a couple of the follow-ups:

          - I was sitting at the defensive end whilst all this happened and I think it's unfair to say the backs were in disarray. What I saw was a group of plays squeezing up...then busting their butts to slide, cover and support each other...the footy was coming in like it was jet propelled!!

          - The comments about the skill ex failures (English HB, Kennedy fumble at the stop, Naughts mark, Baker HB - well, HB decision etc etc) just goes to show the importance of owning your moments/taking care of the basics PARTICULARLY when things aren't going well. One of the challenges here is that the best way to stop a run on like Freo had is to get control of the footy/take a mark (preferably two or three!) and take the air out of the game...but so often these run-ons happen at a frantic pace as the oppo put speed on the ball...anyway, we simply couldn't get it back.

          - The whole 'gave Brayshaw a leg-rope' type comment recalls 2021 at the same venue so closely. It's like - it doesn't matter how good you are or think you are, right now we simply need to slow down the game. With Bont and Treloar out we really are down on experience (and big bodies) and no surprise that Brayshaw and Serong were key movers in all of this...

          Look - this was the game. It was pretty obvious on the day and reading this back it's even more depressing!!
          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18880

            #6
            Originally posted by mjp
            It's a truly epic post mate.

            Just to respond to a couple of the follow-ups:

            - I was sitting at the defensive end whilst all this happened and I think it's unfair to say the backs were in disarray. What I saw was a group of plays squeezing up...then busting their butts to slide, cover and support each other...the footy was coming in like it was jet propelled!!

            - The comments about the skill ex failures (English HB, Kennedy fumble at the stop, Naughts mark, Baker HB - well, HB decision etc etc) just goes to show the importance of owning your moments/taking care of the basics PARTICULARLY when things aren't going well. One of the challenges here is that the best way to stop a run on like Freo had is to get control of the footy/take a mark (preferably two or three!) and take the air out of the game...but so often these run-ons happen at a frantic pace as the oppo put speed on the ball...anyway, we simply couldn't get it back.

            - The whole 'gave Brayshaw a leg-rope' type comment recalls 2021 at the same venue so closely. It's like - it doesn't matter how good you are or think you are, right now we simply need to slow down the game. With Bont and Treloar out we really are down on experience (and big bodies) and no surprise that Brayshaw and Serong were key movers in all of this...

            Look - this was the game. It was pretty obvious on the day and reading this back it's even more depressing!!
            It was such an interesting exercise dissecting it.

            It had been coming for a bit and the dam wall just smashed open.

            I really got a great appreciation for the talent in Fremantles midfield and the balance they have.

            O'Meara in particular with his defensive work which is often unheralded and not super coach worthy.

            The back 6 agree they did ok under the torrent. It was the ease with which their mids found space and our lack of speed.
            Kennedy and Sanders to a Libba mix isn't exactly that different from Macrae tbh.
            Richards so important and he was rarely sighted during this period.

            Thanks for the feedback MJP I'm enjoying the closer analysis.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • NAUGHTY100
              Rookie List
              • Dec 2024
              • 402

              #7
              Originally posted by Bornadog

              I still think the back 6 were in a little disarray, throughout the match, without Doc controlling the players and coaching them where they should be.

              With Doc's career coming to an end, who will take over his important role
              I think i saw his replacement in the VFL game against Werribee on Saturday , 1st gamer Lachie Jaques , showed so much promise , it might take him a while to take Docs place but all the foundation was their to see , attacks when he should, holds gound when he should, great intercept mark and very good attacking kick , put him down in your little black books , the kid is the modern day footballer .

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21577

                #8
                Good post mate.

                I think what you've documented was why people were so concerned in the first quarter when all of the metrics outside of the scoreboard favoured us.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18880

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  Good post mate.

                  I think what you've documented was why people were so concerned in the first quarter when all of the metrics outside of the scoreboard favoured us.
                  Makes sense Jee. We were doing a lot right but not stopping them scoring.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8895

                    #10
                    Hey, I really enjoyed reading that piece GG, awesome effort.
                    Really appreciate the effort and time WOOFER's like yourself GG, MJP, Jazzadogs, Rusty12 et al, are making to post some very engaging posts!
                    Whilst I may not have responded or directly engaged much, they are definitely being read and thought about.
                    I'm on a month's annual leave from tomorrow arvo, so I'm going to interact more with some of the great threads that have emerged recently.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18880

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                      Hey, I really enjoyed reading that piece GG, awesome effort.
                      Really appreciate the effort and time WOOFER's like yourself GG, MJP, Jazzadogs, Rusty12 et al, are making to post some very engaging posts!
                      Whilst I may not have responded or directly engaged much, they are definitely being read and thought about.
                      I'm on a month's annual leave from tomorrow arvo, so I'm going to interact more with some of the great threads that have emerged recently.
                      Cheers mate I know people read them even if they don't reply
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • Countrydog5
                        Rookie List
                        • Dec 2023
                        • 215

                        #12
                        I wanted to go back and review the Sanders "Leg-Rope" incident because I know he's been criticised before on his lack of defensive intent, so I was curious to see how it played out. After Naughton dropped the mark (absolute howler) Sanders (who is running offensively thinking the simple mark should be taken) comes across from the corridor to pressure the ball as it hits the deck, although he isn't really able to make it across and effectively impact at the time. Cox is the Freo player to clean it up, who then feeds to O'Meara. Sanders tries to pressure both, but the ball is easily fed out of traffic via handball to Jackson and then Wagner who delivers forward to a blinded Buku.

                        In the meantime, Brayshaw who is at the foot of Naughtons drop sees Cox gather cleanly and immediately gets on his bike to the dangerous area on top of the 50. In doing this, he gets 10-15m separation from any of our players and is able to receive the handball and kick the goal without a great deal of pressure applied to him. Sanders was trailing because he'd been actively pressuring the ball carrier earlier whilst Brayshaw took off, but he was never an actual chance to catch up and apply meaningful pressure to Brayshaw besides yelling "you're hot" or "chewy on your boot". He could have potentially looked to chase harder for the optics of it all, but he was never going to actually affect the shot on goal.

                        As a summary, while Sanders was seen to be the one trailing, I wouldn't chalk this one up as him giving too much leg rope or not being defensively minded at least in this particular scenario. It was just good offensive nous from Brayshaw to recognise the turnover straight away and get on his bike to a dangerous position while we all fumbled around trying to pick up the scraps of Naughtons mistake. Funnily enough, the best person to actually pick up Brayshaw was Freijah, who attempted to smother the kick from Wagner and was 5 steps ahead of Sanders as the ball entered 50.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18880

                          #13
                          Nice pick up CD. It can be easy to see the closest guy and blame them but looks like Sanders was working over time there.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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