Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

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  • 1eyedog
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    • Mar 2008
    • 13387

    #76
    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
    Bont has had a very gentle week on the track to nurse his hip. If he rucks against Martin, we have seriously lost the plot.
    Exactly I suspect he'll be eased back in by playing predominately forward.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27681

      #77
      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Hope this is just taking the piss out of us all.
      Originally posted by Bulldog4life
      Maybe the MC are aware that Bont won't be a starter and Trengove will replace him. Just keeping Brisbane in the dark for a while longer. Maybe.
      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
      Bevo last week said in the post match that we were exposed in the Ruck and our strategies needed to be addressed. To drop English and replace him with a midfielder just doesn't add up. Surely Trengove is a late in.
      Yep I think Bont out and Trengove will come in. When you've got a player like Marcus you might as well make the opposition plan for him so hopefully they will have to neglect some other aspects of their preperation.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • The Bulldogs Bite
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        • Dec 2006
        • 11407

        #78
        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        Boyd is the only player who's looked likely when left forward for any length of time yet we are making him ruck most of the game. Over it.
        Boggles the mind...

        I can see Brisbane punishing us.

        Even if they don’t I just wish we’d commit to developing a bloody key forward without turning them into something else.
        W00F!

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27681

          #79
          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
          Boggles the mind...

          I can see Brisbane punishing us.

          Even if they don’t I just wish we’d commit to developing a bloody key forward without turning them into something else.

          It just looks like we are being too clever by half. I'm preparing to watch us pull our own trousers down this week. God I hope I'm wrong.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • lemmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6598

            #80
            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

            Another frustrating Thursday selection.

            You'd hope Trengrove is a late in, otherwise, Martin would be mad not to have his knee pointed firmly at Boyd's ribs from the first bounce.

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            • The Pie Man
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2008
              • 3505

              #81
              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

              Have we been told they plan to open the roof?

              Trengove *has* to be a late in - I like Boyd playing extended ruck minutes, but not 80% +
              Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67695

                #82
                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                Originally posted by The Pie Man
                Have we been told they plan to open the roof?

                Trengove *has* to be a late in - I like Boyd playing extended ruck minutes, but not 80% +
                I thought he did very well in the end rucking most of the game against GC. He may not have been dominant in the hitouts, but around the ground I thought he was the best big man.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67695

                  #83
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                  Originally posted by chef
                  Maybe Bevo sees Boyd as a ruckman not a KPF?
                  With Campbell not really up to it, Roughead injured and just coming back this week, English needing a rest and Trengove also coming back from an injury, perhaps we don't have a choice. Would have been nice to get Schache in there to stay up forward, but I don't think he is ready.
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #84
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I thought he did very well in the end rucking most of the game against GC. He may not have been dominant in the hitouts, but around the ground I thought he was the best big man.
                    That's true but English still gave him handy minutes off the ball. With no proper support for Boyd, we do look horribly exposed. It's also a huge ask on Boyd given he has had his issues and is really just finding his feet again as a player.

                    On the other hand, Brisbane's side is insanely tall (they have named 4 200cm+ players, 10 at 190 cm+), so maybe our plan is to concede the height and just run them off their feet.

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                    • Mantis
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                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15547

                      #85
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      With Campbell not really up to it, Roughead injured and just coming back this week, English needing a rest and Trengove also coming back from an injury, perhaps we don't have a choice. Would have been nice to get Schache in there to stay up forward, but I don't think he is ready.
                      Trengove has had 2 games back now (and a bye in the middle) after a 2-3 week lay-off... if he isn't ready now he will never be. He also had about 25 disposals and 20 HO's in his latest game so seems to be in reasonable form. This makes his acquistion absolutely stupid if we can't slot him in when we are clearly struggling for big man stocks in the ruck & front half of the ground.

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11961

                        #86
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                        Boyd's not that good a ruckman that we couldn't find someone else to do about as good a job reasonably cheaply. He should be playing forward but we just refuse to do so even when he looked pretty decent there his 1st 2 games back. Infuriating.
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #87
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                          Originally posted by hujsh
                          Boyd's not that good a ruckman that we couldn't find someone else to do about as good a job reasonably cheaply. He should be playing forward but we just refuse to do so even when he looked pretty decent there his 1st 2 games back. Infuriating.
                          Exactly. This is what shits me. Boyd will be semi-serviceable in the ruck... He's over 200cm and 100kg. He will never develop into a gun KPP because he's never given enough time to develop into a gun KPP. If we don't have any patience to developed a pick one (by a country mile), some called once in a generation forward, then we will never ever develop one. I started a now locked thread about the last thing you want the dogs coach to say now we drafted Boyd (at the time). I said something like, 'we've found our new full back'. I was close to my fear.
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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3505

                            #88
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Trengove has had 2 games back now (and a bye in the middle) after a 2-3 week lay-off... if he isn't ready now he will never be. He also had about 25 disposals and 20 HO's in his latest game so seems to be in reasonable form. This makes his acquistion absolutely stupid if we can't slot him in when we are clearly struggling for big man stocks in the ruck & front half of the ground.
                            Yep

                            Really hope Jackson is a late in, or his recruitment ATM is looking pointless

                            I'll repeat - I like Boyd in the ruck, he's pretty decent finding an option in traffic. Just don't think 80% + is ideal.
                            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67695

                              #89
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              Trengove has had 2 games back now (and a bye in the middle) after a 2-3 week lay-off... if he isn't ready now he will never be. He also had about 25 disposals and 20 HO's in his latest game so seems to be in reasonable form. This makes his acquistion absolutely stupid if we can't slot him in when we are clearly struggling for big man stocks in the ruck & front half of the ground.
                              I agree he should be in, I was giving the alternative thoughts and trying to work out why he isn't in.

                              I would not have Webb in and preferred if Trengove was in.

                              Obviously Bevo has a plan.
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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11493

                                #90
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8, 2018 vs Brisbane Lions

                                Other than the obvious ruck issue, who goes to Zorko with Jong out? Or do we just let him do as he pleases?

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