AFL Game Day Round 9, 2018 - Adelaide V Western Bulldogs at Adelaide Oval

[Sedat]

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I am sorry that comment is was way off the mark. We have been crying for a second ruckman and when we put one in it's the wrong decision? ????

Trengove replaced another tall in Young, so we only had the one extra tall in.

Have we? Been winning and/or competitive with just the 1 ruck the last few weeks.

I don't think our midfield bats deep enough to go in one short - would much rather extra mids to rotate through than a 2nd ruck who competes 5-10 mins a qtr. I'd rather that set-up in dry conditions, let alone tonight.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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Our lack of skill and class showed up in the wet conditions.
Only Bontempelli Macrae and Williams looked A Grade Players. The forward line with 52 advances into the forward 50 for two goals tells the sorry story. Dale Dunkley and Gowers really struggled in attack. Our overuse of handball in the conditions was a major contributor to the defeat. Tom Boyd had a bad night with Roughead our best ruck man against Jacobs.I would like to see Schache tried in attack which was lamentable tonight.

[Sedat]

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Yeah we were. They got several holding frees which were there because their forwards played in front.

Their quick ball movement and territory gains by foot contributed to this as well.

[Missing Dog]

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The umpires fail to give frees for incorrect disposal, holding the ball but love to pay the technical ones when an arm brushes over someone.

They were letting them go for both sides eg Hunter's throws. We didn't lose because of the umps.

[Bornadog]

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Have we? Been winning and/or competitive with just the 1 ruck the last few weeks.

I don't think our midfield bats deep enough to go in one short - would much rather extra mids to rotate through than a 2nd ruck who competes 5-10 mins a qtr. I'd rather that set-up in dry conditions, let alone tonight.

So you say we go in with one ruck and Dunkley/Bont as second rucks and have no talls in the forward line. Sorry I can't agree.

As for tonight, as I said we weren't to know the weather was going to be that shit.

[Missing Dog]

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Their quick ball movement and territory gains by foot contributed to this as well.

On a night like this, isn't that more reflective of tactics rather than execution? Its not as if they were drilling precision kicks to forwards on the lead. They knew to go long by foot when ever they won it back. That;s superior coaching.

[Bornadog]

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They were letting them go for both sides eg Hunter's throws. We didn't lose because of the umps.

Did I say we lost because of the umps. It was a comment.

We lost because we weren't good enough.

[The bulldog tragician]

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It was so painful to see Eddie Betts confident about his ability to kick a goal no matter where. We lack class on the forward line, badly, but the indirect zig zagging into the forward line was just horrible. But, when we did kick it, the wet ball just magnified that we have so many poor kicks.

The first half effort was terrific but you knew that with so little reward in a gruelling slog, it could get ugly. And it did.

This is where we are at right now, I’m afraid. We have a lot of gritty midfielders but few are polished. The “silky” players - Webb and Dale - just don’t give enough. The form of Wood and Roughy is tough to watch at present, shadows of themselves.

[Eastdog]

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Disappointing night watching from home and even more so for those who travelled over or who live in SA and went to the game.

Really thought we would be a chance tonight. I can't fault the effort tonight we tackled well and got the ball inside 50 but we did not do what matters most - kick goals. This is such a huge issue that hasn't not gotten any better and we are just sick of it now - action needs to be taken in how we can get more when we get it inside 50.

2.14 for the whole game is very embarrassing. I know it was a wet and slippery night out there but still the Crows managed 8 goals.

So onto next Friday night now against the Pies back at Etihad Stadium. It will be me (Doggies supporter) vs my brother (Pies supporter).

[Sedat]

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On a night like this, isn't that more reflective of tactics rather than execution? Its not as if they were drilling precision kicks to forwards on the lead. They knew to go long by foot when ever they won it back. That;s superior coaching.

Bit of both I reckon. It's a territory battle on nights like tonight so the quick kick to an open forward line is very effective, even if it is a hack kick.

Bevo got schooled a bit tonight I reckon.

[Sedat]

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So you say we go in with one ruck and Dunkley/Bont as second rucks and have no talls in the forward line. Sorry I can't agree.

What exactly is wrong with the 1 ruck/ relief ruck option? We win more than we lose with such a structure - worked for Richmond last year as well.

I agree with you on the forward structure. Having a big body down there for the bail out option is vital.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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On a night like this, isn't that more reflective of tactics rather than execution? Its not as if they were drilling precision kicks to forwards on the lead. They knew to go long by foot when ever they won it back. That;s superior coaching.

We had 90 more handpasses and 22 less kicks with 68 more disposals. This is our normal dry weather pattern of play but in these conditions an unmitigated disaster. Our inability to adjust proved fatal.

[ledge]

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Ok looking at the big picture, we certainly have a go and are trying our hardest , we are still a failure into the forward line and I'm beginning to think it's the men of mayhem again, just get in there anyway possible, but the problem is we aren't picking out our forwards .
I have no doubt we are on track with our young kids and it will come sooner than later that we start to blow sides away.
I went to the West Coast and my god they were twice the size of us height and build wise.
We have young kids who are playing in the highest level in major positions and are just finding their feet, they are doing a great job and give them some slack .
I'm dissapointed the score ended up like it did but I don't think it reflects our endeavour in any way.
Just be patient.

[LostDoggy]

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Bit of both I reckon. It's a territory battle on nights like tonight so the quick kick to an open forward line is very effective, even if it is a hack kick.

Bevo got schooled a bit tonight I reckon.

Bevo said post match that the coaches had instructed the players to look to kick more and to alter the gamestyle to the conditions, and that the players just didn't follow this through. That is probably even more worrying.

It was our better and more experienced players who failed to adapt - Macrae, Bont, Maclean, Dahlhaus, Wallis all had more handballs than kicks. I understad that these ar the guys in the clinches who probably need to handball most, but they were the ones that needed to modify their play the most.

[The bulldog tragician]

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Our stoppage work was frustrating. Whenever there was one in Crows forward 50 there were dangerous loose men waiting outside. Including one Eddie Betts. In our 50 everyone was caught inside the scrum or at bottom of packs.