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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6471

    #1

    Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

    The Doctor is out on the road so he's asked to post his diagnosis of this cracking game:

    Originally posted by The Doctor
    Get ready folks for the blockbuster of the season - this should be an exhilarating game!

    MATCH:

    Hawthorn vs Western Bulldogs
    Saturday May 31st, Aurora Stadium, Tasmania.

    2:10pm (local time)

    FORM THIS SEASON:

    Bulldogs - 7 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss

    Hawthorn - undefeated as at round 9

    They have handed out floggings to Melbourne and Collingwood. They gave Adelaide a 7 goal belting and secured narrow wins (2-3 goals) against middle of the road teams such as; Port, Kangas, Tigers, Lions and Freo (before they were a laughing stock).

    Last week they overcame a surprisingly determined and competitive Melbourne side who led for much of the game.

    Impressively they have won everywhere from Tassie to Subiaco and they won these playing morning, noon and night.

    PLAYERS MISSING:

    Hawthorn Injury list

    Lewis?
    Hodge
    McGlynn
    Guerra

    Bulldogs Injury list

    West
    Higgins

    LAST MEETING: Round 21, 2007

    W Bulldogs 5.3 8.3 10.6 10.7 (67)
    Hawthorn 1.7 6.9 13.14 22.19 (151)

    W Bulldogs: L.Gilbee 3, L.Darcy 2, D.Giansiracusa, A.Cooney, J.Akermanis, W.Skipper, F.Ray

    Hawthorn: L.Hodge 6, J.Lewis 4, J.Roughead 3, B.Dixon 3, L.Franklin 2, R.Campbell, G.Birchall, C.Brown, C.Young

    BEST:W Bulldogs: West, Eagleton, Giansiracusa, Cooney, Cross, Gilbee, Lake, Johnson, Boyd

    Hawthorn: Sewell, Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis, Crawford, Franklin, Brown, Birchall, Young, Guerra, Gilham

    Crowd: 32,734 at Telstra Dome on Sunday, 26th August

    The Dogs were on top early then got obliterated. This game was played at the height of our much publicised late season fade out. The finals bound Hawks got on top after ¼ time and seized control of the midfield and dominated after half time. We were crap. Aside from that game the Bulldogs won in 4 of their previous 5 encounters. This includes beating them earlier in the season at the MCG. We won it by 17 without playing all that well.

    PLAYERS UNDER THE PUMP:

    Bulldogs

    Cam Wight – struggled against the Roos and maybe time for a rest. No ideal matchup for him so I query who he would play on.

    Gilbee - needs to lift.

    Williams - maybe he was rushed back too soon but in time will become an important player. I'd like to see him in the midfield at some point, knocking over some Hawks.

    We need another runner for this gaame, so I hope we'll see one of Harbrow, Ward or Stack for Wight or Williams.

    Hawks

    No real standouts - most Hawthorn players have credits in the bank although one or two would make way for Lewis and/or Hodge if fit.

    STYLE:

    The Dogs and Hawks are the highest scoring teams in the comp. Each have excellent midfields and forwards with arguably middle of the road defences.

    I like the way Hawthorn play. They play a tough, uncompromising style and like to get good numbers around the ball, especially between the 50m arcs. They back each other up strongly and their attack on the ball is fierce. They also like to attack the man and are prepared to test the resolve of the match review committee with their physical approach to the opposition.

    One thing they do better than anyone is attack through the middle of the ground. Their midfielders and half backs will swarm like bees to the contest area, not necessarily the contest. They excel in the stoppages where Mitchell and Sewell are in the competitions elite at clearing the ball. When they win possession the Hawks will handball their way quickly through traffic in any direction until they find runners such as Bateman and Young in space then deliver to their killer bees, their wonderful key forwards, Franklin, Roughhead and Williams.

    They defend the middle corridor very well with this swarm when they lose the ball. They are quite prepared to concede the boundary and flanks often forcing teams to go wide. Dopey teams will then try and chip their way around the boundary to get through. Meanwhile the Hawks will take their midfield swarm into the back half if it gets that far and make it difficult to get easy shots on goal. Goals against the Hawks are hard earnt.

    Despite the quality of the Hawthorn midfield they do not kick many goals. Buddy, Roughie and Willo kick all their goals. Could this be their Achilles heal? If we can contain 1 or 2 of them we should win. Another thing about Hawthorn is they don’t seem to have much versatility either especially if Hodge is missing. On the other hand we can fling our players almost anywhere if we need to change the shape of the game.

    The Dogs have obviously improved in the stoppages. Hudson is our key man to stop the Hawks from getting first use. We need a big game from him. We will also need to run harder than we have at any other time this season and be prepared to kick long and back our forwards to win their respective battles.

    KEY DUELS:

    Boyd v Mitchell

    Disconnecting Mitchell from the rest of his team mates looms as possibly the most important match up decision for our match committee. Mitchell is the queen bee of the Hawthorn midfield and needs someone who can not only go with him and negate his influence but a player capable of hurting him the other way. Boyd is our man but he must be disciplined and not get caught ball watching or Mitchell will give him the slip. Don’t think Addison or Callan are ready for this one yet.

    Cooney v Sewell

    This match up probably works in reverse to the one above for Hawthorn. Cooney will be there biggest concern. Sewell is a great tagger and has a terrific work ethic and discipline. He is also very proficient in the clearance dept. Cooney however has been able to shrug off tags and is one of the competitions leaders in winning the contested ball. Even if he can’t he can go forward and become a danger man.

    Lake v Roughead

    Old fashioned big marking forward vs old fashioned big marking full back. Possibly the most exciting duel of the game. For us to win we need to beat 2 of their 3 key forwards. I’ll back Lake on the basis of good consistent form over a long period and the benefit of extra experience in big games. Who gets Williams will be interesting. I’d go with Hargrave first up.

    Addison v Bateman

    This may surprise some and it may not happen but I would like to see it happen. Bateman is a great runner and the Hawks chief distributor to their forwards. I’d like to cut this supply line off and Addo would be my man for this important task.

    Morris v Franklin

    How do you stop a man who can do almost anything? You can’t, but you can make it bloody difficult. Morris will stick to him like glue as we know. He will probably get beaten as Franklin will still kick 4.6 on a bad day but he will be our most accountable and most likely to curb his impact on the game. In the first meeting last year Franklin wiped the floor with Wight in the first ¼ before Hargrave and Lake popped over for a visit. Perhaps a solid physical work out early could unsettle him. It’s a pity we don’t have Grant there to cut off the angles or be third man in. So will Rocket look to play a loose man in the Buddy zone? The Hawks go through Buddy a lot so it wouldn’t surprise me if he does. If that’s the case I expect it will be a good ground level player like Gilbee as Franklin is arguably as good on the ground if not better than he is in the air.

    Murphy v Gilham

    Gilham is vastly underrated and like Murphy is a clever user of his body in a contest. He may not be the first choice for Murphy, this task may go to Croad or Brown. I’d be happy with either of those two as I think we would get the advantage. Gilham, however, has good footy smarts and will be tough to beat in the air. He is also a highly effective user of the ball so we will need Murphy to apply plenty of defensive pressure. This would be a fascinating battle.

    WHO WILL WIN & WHY?

    If this was at Telstra and no Hodge I’d be backing the Dogs by 20. The Hawks though have a lot of momentum at the minute and play Aurora very well. I expect them to get the points in a tight one if Lewis and Hodge play. Having said that I don’t fear them that much, and the Dogs will pip them if they are missing Lewis and Hodge.

    And as the season wears on I expect them to increasingly feel the pressure. While they have a great first 22 I don’t see much experienced depth and a few injuries will wobble them.

    For us to win we have to effectively shut Mitchell down and reduce the effectiveness of Bateman. This will dry up the supply to the Hawk forward line but it’s a huge ask. This match should be a pearler.
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10251

    #2
    Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

    Great preview, looking forwards to this one.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • DOG GOD
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jul 2007
      • 6617

      #3
      Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

      Great post Doc....hope we come to play in a BIG way.
      I will never see #16 the same!!

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

        Superb read. Great work!

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45548

          #5
          Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

          I'd like to explore the Cooney on Sewell match-up because it's not one that I would go with but I do see the logic.
          I rate Sewell as more damaging than Mitchell and I'd have Boyd locking on him.
          If Mitchell is to be exploited it would be with someone with the leg speed of Cooney

          Thoughts?
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67693

            #6
            Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

            Great Preview Doc


            Lewis and Crawford will play this week. Hodge is still a few weeks off. Stewie Dew is still to pass a fitness test.

            I am not sure about Morris on Franklin, mainly due to the height difference, but then again he has done it before. We have to stop their midfield feeding Franklin and Roughhead.

            Boyd should pick up Mitchell and maybe Eagleton on Sewell.
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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15547

              #7
              Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I'd like to explore the Cooney on Sewell match-up because it's not one that I would go with but I do see the logic.
              I rate Sewell as more damaging than Mitchell and I'd have Boyd locking on him.
              If Mitchell is to be exploited it would be with someone of the leg speed of Cooney

              Thoughts?
              I think this is a match-up that Hawthorn would instigate.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13387

                #8
                Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Great Preview Doc


                Lewis and Crawford will play this week. Hodge is still a few weeks off. Stewie Dew is still to pass a fitness test.

                I am not sure about Morris on Franklin, mainly due to the height difference, but then again he has done it before. We have to stop their midfield feeding Franklin and Roughhead.

                Boyd should pick up Mitchell and maybe Eagleton on Sewell.
                I am also concerned here but Lake needs to go to Roughhead as he does not have the engine to go with Buddy. Morris toweled up Reiwoldt in the Saints game so he can do it. I do not personally like the idea of Williams or Wight playing on Buddy but one of them may have to.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • dog town
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1925

                  #9
                  Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                  Well sumarised Doc.

                  It is going to be fascinating to see how Eade gets us to play this.

                  The key to the hawks good start this season has been the success of the midfield zone they are playing. It is not a new thing in the AFL they have simply taken it a step further. I saw them do it a bit last year but this year they are actually sacrificing defenders to join in with the zone from kick ins. They are that confident that they can restrict the opposition forward thrusts that they push players up from behind. The bad news for us is that teams have found it incredibly hard to get through at times this season. If you try and chip and handball through the corridor they are well drilled enough to force an error and then burn you on the rebound. They will just close in on you and constrict you until you cough the ball up. I know Rocket sent up a team to watch Hawthorn play Port in Tassy two weeks ago. I wonder what they learnt?

                  The key has to be very quick ball movement. Port did it pretty well for a half but lost control at the stoppages. Port took the ball wide quickly and used pin point disposals to create holes in the hawks "cluster'. I dont think we should neccesarily aim to go wide but we are good enough to work through it and open up some running lanes through the middle once we get wide and in space.

                  The positives I see in this match up is that we can certainly score heavily against Hawthorn if we are able to get the ball forward often enough. We will really trouble them up forward. We have a line up of very dangerous forwards who are pretty clever and efficient. The hawks backline really relies on complete midfield dominance and two pretty simple players in Croad and Campbell. Both are great in straight lines but can struggle when you turn them around. We can certainly kick a winning score if we get the supply.

                  We cant rely on us completely unravelling the midfield zone they have been employing. We also need to win the stoppages (big ask) and generate plenty of forward thrusts from that area. If we can win the ball from these situations we can give our forwards excellent one out opportunities.

                  I wouldn't mind a bit of pre meditated aggression against them early. They are prone to losing the plot and it could give us a flyer.

                  Morris will go to Franklin. Mark it down. He has the closing speed and agility to atleast compete with him. Buddy generally gets you in 3 ways. Either a straight up lead at the ball carrier, a lead to the fat side (usually followed by a nudge under the ball), or a big horse shoe lead where he pushes right up the ground turns the defender around then blows them away running back towards goal. Morris will compete with him in most of these aspects. Hargrave is my second choice. He did a really good job on him when we beat them last season. He ran off him continually making him accountable and was very aggressive towards Buddy. We need our backline to work together to combat the entire Hawthorn forward line. If they work for each other then we can keep them quiet. Would love to see Timmy Callan throwing himself into the hole if they dont use his man.

                  Harris to Roughhead

                  We can win this game. We just have to go flat out all day.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67693

                    #10
                    Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    I am also concerned here but Lake needs to go to Roughhead as he does not have the engine to go with Buddy. Morris toweled up Reiwoldt in the Saints game so he can do it. I do not personally like the idea of Williams or Wight playing on Buddy but one of them may have to.
                    True, Riewold is 196cm same as Franklin.
                    Roughhead is 193cm, Lake 195cm, Williams 196cm, Morris 190cm
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                    • Bornadog
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                      • Jan 2007
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                      #11
                      Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                      The other match up will be on Mark Williams. Will Hargrave pick him up or Callan?
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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11961

                        #12
                        Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        The other match up will be on Mark Williams. Will Hargrave pick him up or Callan?
                        I like the Hargrave matchup. Has that extra bit of reach that will be useful
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                        • Topdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7483

                          #13
                          Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                          I would like to see our midfielders be really aggressive early too DT. They can easily lose the plot and if it results in some free kicks and / or 50m penalties than it is worth a shot.

                          I'd like to see Addison in the middle harassing Sewell because if we let this guy win the balls he will hurt us.

                          Bateman is another guy we will need to worry about and I'd like to see Griffen matched up on him.

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                          • LostDoggy
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                            Who do you think Callan will take? And who do you think will get dropped this week - Wight?

                            I would like to blood one of our young eager players - maybe Ward.

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                            • Dogs 24/7
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1256

                              #15
                              Re: Round 10, 2008 - Dogs v Hawks match preview

                              Nice write up Doc. Lake on Roughead is an interesting match up but I think that leaves us exposed with Franklin. What would be plan B if Franklin beats Morris?

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