Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

    Tell us three of your now known unkowns from prior to the match.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
  • westbulldog
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2009
    • 1767

    #2
    Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

    1. Our coaching staff are slow to or do not react at all when blind freddy half tanked in the last row of the top level of the MCG can see what is inevitable (refer 3rd quarter).
    2. Injuries and inexperience are cruelling us this season.
    3. We need a quality ruckman badly.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #3
      Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

      1. Honeychurch is contending for one the luckiest 5+ year players in the AFEL. We are a better team with him not in it.
      2. This is what happens when a coach won't play a genuine ruckman. Gawn, Goldstein & McEvoy are forces against our mids.
      3. Shut down our number one accumulator in the last few weeks at half time (Crozier, JJ & Macrae), and beat us with our No Plan B.
      4. If Harry Taylor kicked straight we'd be 16th tonight. Thank god he missed (still FU Harry), but pick 3 might have be better...
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14582

        #4
        Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

        Plenty of time for us the finish 3rd last BT.
        The curse is dead.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          #5
          Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

          Originally posted by chef
          Plenty of time for us the finish 3rd last BT.
          True, we've played like a third last on the ladder team for a large chunk of the year for whole or half games. I guess if we keep playing like that the draft sky is the limit I guess.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7708

            #6
            Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            True, we've played like a third last on the ladder team for a large chunk of the year for whole or half games. I guess if we keep playing like that the draft sky is the limit I guess.
            At this stage I only see us beating Carlton. I think the saints are better than us right now (we are missing half our side). Assuming we beat carlton, saints beat us and the lions beat the suns, we will finish 3rd last provided both the lions and saints win one extra game each. Entirely possible but they may just tank it up. Not that I’d rather pick 3 over building some momentum heading into next year. But it could happen. Imagine being guaranteed one of Walsh, Smith or Rankine

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              #7
              Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
              At this stage I only see us beating Carlton. I think the saints are better than us right now (we are missing half our side). Assuming we beat carlton, saints beat us and the lions beat the suns, we will finish 3rd last provided both the lions and saints win one extra game each. Entirely possible but they may just tank it up. Not that I’d rather pick 3 over building some momentum heading into next year. But it could happen. Imagine being guaranteed one of Walsh, Smith or Rankine
              It just moved for first time since Harry Taylor missed.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • EasternWest
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 9994

                #8
                Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                People are complaining about "not playing a ruckman" but who do we play? Campbell? Gawn would've destroyed him too.

                Aside from English, we don't really have a ruckman. And he's got a lot of promise but he's still a few years off.

                These calls for Campbell are confounding.
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • kruder
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2011
                  • 3784

                  #9
                  Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                  Originally posted by EasternWest
                  People are complaining about "not playing a ruckman" but who do we play? Campbell? Gawn would've destroyed him too.

                  Aside from English, we don't really have a ruckman. And he's got a lot of promise but he's still a few years off.

                  These calls for Campbell are confounding.
                  At least give him a crack why the hell is on the list then? I don't think anyone thinks he is the saviour but surely you would give him a run. Make no mistake he would have done better than Roughead in that 3rd term when we lost the crucial centre clearances. At one stage Melbourne had 17-3 hit outs to advantage. Thats Campbells strength IMO.

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                  • EasternWest
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 9994

                    #10
                    Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                    Originally posted by kruder
                    At least give him a crack why the hell is on the list then? I don't think anyone thinks he is the saviour but surely you would give him a run. Make no mistake he would have done better than Roughead in that 3rd term when we lost the crucial centre clearances. At one stage Melbourne had 17-3 hit outs to advantage. Thats Campbells strength IMO.
                    Sure, but this talk about "Gawn killed us, Goldstein killed us" because of our ruckman doesn't wash. They'd kill Campbell too.
                    "It's over. It's all over."

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #11
                      Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                      Originally posted by EasternWest
                      Sure, but this talk about "Gawn killed us, Goldstein killed us" because of our ruckman doesn't wash. They'd kill Campbell too.
                      That’s maybe why we should’ve got one at the trade table. Or not get drunk on a ‘no ruck’ philosophy, nor play a FF as a ruck, nor contract and then not play Campbell at all, nor ruck mids like Jong, Bonts & Dunks. Or maybe just concede the ruck, which we effectively do each week. What’s the answer to being competitive in the ruck, something we’ve not been for two years?
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9994

                        #12
                        Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        That’s maybe why we should’ve got one at the trade table. Or not get drunk on a ‘no ruck’ philosophy, nor play a FF as a ruck, nor contract and then not play Campbell at all, nor ruck mids like Jong, Bonts & Dunks. Or maybe just concede the ruck, which we effectively do each week. What’s the answer to being competitive in the ruck, something we’ve not been for two years?
                        Yeah I dunno either, I just find "play Campbell" akin to "just play the kids" or "kick the bloody thing" or "go forwards" or "sir you can't do that in public". They're just pithy sayings that don't mean and won't change anything.
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66169

                          #13
                          Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                          Originally posted by EasternWest
                          Yeah I dunno either, I just find "play Campbell" akin to "just play the kids" or "kick the bloody thing" or "go forwards" or "sir you can't do that in public". They're just pithy sayings that don't mean and won't change anything.
                          I agree with you EW, Campbell hasn't been exactly knocking the door down to get in.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66169

                            #14
                            Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                            1. Great to be able to walk to the G from home.
                            2. It was very cold and glad I bought a feather down jacket in the sales.
                            3. Melbourne supporters are strange. They whinged about the umpiring the entire time I was there, and many left early.

                            Oh, Football wise, Macrae is a bloody good footballer with 33 dispoals and 8 tackles.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13188

                              #15
                              Re: Three things You've learned, edition XVII 2018 v Melbourne at MCG

                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              People are complaining about "not playing a ruckman" but who do we play? Campbell? Gawn would've destroyed him too.

                              Aside from English, we don't really have a ruckman. And he's got a lot of promise but he's still a few years off.

                              These calls for Campbell are confounding.
                              Re. Campbell why the hell retain him?
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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