Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

    Three things is what we ask.
    It's a pretty simple task.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
  • DOG GOD
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2007
    • 6403

    #2
    Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

    1. When our heads are in the clouds we are one of the worst teams to watch
    2. We couldn’t take a contested mark inside 50 to save ourselves
    3. Richards will be a gun in 2 years
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #3
      Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

      1. Essendon took Stringer, Smith & Saad as pre-loved players. Port took Thomas, McKenzie, Motlop, Rockliff, Watts & Trengove. Dogs took Schache, Crozier, Trengove & Gowers (a year away). Last year you'd guess we were going to be the least rated. But Crozier keeps improving, Trengove is what Roughy was in 2016 despite being a bit smaller, Schache is a work in progress and Gowers is doing well, less the set shot thing. I learned that in terms of clubs that went to get talent from elsewhere, the collective future of our four players is trending in a very positive direction on its own and in comparison to other who used the same strategy, despite our club being thrifty with our trading values. These guys are walk up best 22 next year.

      2. Lynch is showing some trends that need ironing out. I'd give him a one year rookie upgrade as part of the overall strategy, but he needs to do a lot more and we should give him some time to do it.

      3. Naughton is a gun. Great one on one, great tackler, great intercept marker. And in his first year. So bring on 2019.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 8906

        #4
        Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

        1. I was too hard, too early on Crozier. Took some time to fit in, but looks better each week.
        2. Schache has a lot of deficiencies in his game, shanks kicks in general play too often, and again today lacked concentration and application when attacking ground balls. It's all well and good to be a good kick, but its the other elements of his game that will take him to the level required to be a top line player.
        3. We have got to get better conversion from our inside 50's. Both our mids bring the ball in poorly and our forwards don't present well.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66182

          #5
          Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

          1. We tend to play at the level of our opposition, and today's game was at the lowest level.

          2. Bont hardly trained this week and still picked up 37 disposals.

          3. Dunks is becoming a contested beast.
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Nuggety Back Pocket
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2064

            #6
            Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

            1. The difference was our midfield with Bont Dunkley Macrae and Hunter all 30 plus possessions
            2. We dominated the centre clearances but again struggled in attack
            3. Good to have Wood back but missed Cordy today. Crozier and Richards continue to impress in defence.

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            • merantau
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2015
              • 3977

              #7
              Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

              I was premature and harsh in my judgment of Crozier. Another slab of humble pie please.
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              • The Underdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2007
                • 6802

                #8
                Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                Originally posted by merantau
                I was premature and harsh in my judgment of Crozier. Another slab of humble pie please.
                He's been outstanding lately. I thought he was easily our best through the first 3 quarters.
                Park that car
                Drop that phone
                Sleep on the floor
                Dream about me

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                • EasternWest
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 9994

                  #9
                  Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                  Originally posted by The Underdog
                  He's been outstanding lately. I thought he was easily our best through the first 3 quarters.
                  Much gutsier than I thought he was too.

                  Has been a resounding success this year.
                  "It's over. It's all over."

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27654

                    #10
                    Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                    Originally posted by EasternWest
                    Much gutsier than I thought he was too.

                    Has been a resounding success this year.
                    Is that something he has added or increased with his move to us? Because he does some kamikaze things and I'm suprised we hadn't seen more of him.


                    He's going to be a real acquisition.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • EasternWest
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9994

                      #11
                      Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Is that something he has added or increased with his move to us? Because he does some kamikaze things and I'm suprised we hadn't seen more of him.


                      He's going to be a real acquisition.
                      I really don't know. I had this idea of him as a flighty outside guy, but he's totally different to that. Either he's got tougher since coming to us or I had him wrong all along.
                      "It's over. It's all over."

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15324

                        #12
                        Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                        Originally posted by merantau
                        I was premature and harsh in my judgment of Crozier. Another slab of humble pie please.
                        There has been a big spike in his output since Suckling got injured. Will be interesting to see what happens next year when the Pig returns.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27654

                          #13
                          Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                          Originally posted by EasternWest
                          I really don't know. I had this idea of him as a flighty outside guy, but he's totally different to that. Either he's got tougher since coming to us or I had him wrong all along.
                          Me too. It's not like he's been singled out for being conspicuous in his bravery or the club made a big fuss about it when he signed. But the last couple of weeks especially he's backed into the valley of doom a couple of times and, I won't say he looks comfortable, but he doesn't look out of his depth either.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66182

                            #14
                            Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            There has been a big spike in his output since Suckling got injured. Will be interesting to see what happens next year when the Pig returns.
                            Do you have your doubts about him now? He has proven his worth
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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15324

                              #15
                              Re: Three things I've learned, edition XXI 2018 v Carlton at Marvel stadium

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Do you have your doubts about him now? He has proven his worth
                              He's had a strong second part of the season after an extremely shaky beginning.. Interested to see where he fits if/ when we ever get a healthy list.

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