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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66727

    The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

    Over the years we have had some beauties against Richmond. Bob Murphy recalls the day Libba elbowed Knights in the forehead.

    What’s the old saying? Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer? It’s something like that.

    The Bulldogs and the Tigers have what I would describe as an almost forgotten rivalry. In Round 2, 2001, Richmond hosted the Western Bulldogs at the MCG in front of a healthy crowd.

    The game is remembered because of an altercation between Tony Liberatore and Matthew Knights in the centre square. A wild melee ensued, and Matthew Knights left the ground with blood pouring out of his face. I was playing my fifth league game.

    A lot of things collided in my little world that day. I’d grown up barracking for the Tigers, but trying to emulate Leon Cameron’s style of play.

    My opponent on this day? Leon Cameron.

    My instruction from Terry Wallace was to play on the half forward flank and nullify the graceful Leon at half back.
    I was all at sea against one of my heroes and my old team. I think Leon may have even featured in the Brownlow voting for this game.

    Despite growing up as an avid Tigers supporter, I dropped them like a hot potato when I was drafted by the Bulldogs in 1999. It was easier than you might think.

    Having said that though, it was quite a jump to witness the moment the Tigers went from our opponent to our arch nemesis.

    Which is exactly what happened after Libba and Knighter’s ‘little run in’. It was a two-way street. The Tigers hated us.

    Over the next few years those games were played with a heightened intensity. They weren’t finals, but the atmosphere felt like a final each time.

    Added to the mix was an unusual level of cross pollination in the form of trades and moves. A quick run through of players to cross clubs are Ben Harrison, Nathan Brown, Leon Cameron, Patrick Bowden and later, Jordan McMahon.

    In isolation, this might not mean that much, I mean, players are traded from club to club every year, but the on-field rivalry was magnified by off-field friendships that ran deep.

    The Dogs and the Tigers of that era often drank together and socialised. It was a friendship that contained shards of competitiveness and spite. Like the ripples of mould in a wedge of blue vein cheese.

    The Dogs and the Tigers of this modern era are not a classic rivalry as such, but these things can spark up just when you least expect it.

    The Bulldogs will be hoping to upset the ladder-leaders to exit the season on a high of four wins in a row, but we’ll have to be at our best as the Tigers have shown their will and class all year.

    There’s a sense of melancholy this week for the Bulldogs, as there always is at this time of year, this being our last game of the season.

    The Tigers are about to launch an assault on their flag defence, and we are not. Still, when there’s four points up for grabs and you’re representing the clan, the blood runs hot.

    In a rare show of peace and goodwill this week, the Tigers and the Dogs traded soldiers, but only for the purposes of podcasting gold.

    Matthew ‘Richo’ Richardson made his way out to the kennel for a sit-down chat on our club’s podcast ‘Freedom in a Cage’, and we took a walk down memory lane.

    There was no spite to be seen or heard, there was no blue veins. For Richo and I, the war is over.
    It only seemed right that I should also cross to Punt Road for the Tigers podcast and partake in some football nostalgia.

    This is the indulgence for old footballers, laughing and smiling at the stories and the drama. For the boys of today, the veins of passion rage and everyone wants to win.
    Do you have some memories of playing Richmond that were out of the ordinary?
    Last edited by Bornadog; 22-08-2018, 08:50 PM.
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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14954

    #2
    Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Do you have some memories of playing Richmond that were out of the ordinary?
    Only my favourite round 1 of all time
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • Ozza
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Mar 2008
      • 6402

      #3
      Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

      The game Bob is referring to actually happened in 2001, not 2004 as he says in the article. And Leon Cameron didn't get brownlow votes that day, the votes were 3. B.Johnson, 2. R.Smith 1. S.Cox

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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7697

        #4
        Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

        Originally posted by Mofra
        Only my favourite round 1 of all time
        I was at that game.....oh when we used to score with ease

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14954

          #5
          Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
          I was at that game.....oh when we used to score with ease
          Ryan "brain surgeon" Griffen's comments after the game landed him in hot water too.

          God I was praying we'd get to the 20 goal victory mark towards the end of that match. I remember bumping into someone in the CBD afterwards and when I said we won by 20 goals they wouldn't believe me.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27655

            #6
            Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

            Originally posted by Ozza
            The game Bob is referring to actually happened in 2001, not 2004 as he says in the article. And Leon Cameron didn't get brownlow votes that day, the votes were 3. B.Johnson, 2. R.Smith 1. S.Cox


            Yeah, I thought Libba retired in 2002.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66727

              #7
              Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

              Originally posted by Ozza
              The game Bob is referring to actually happened in 2001, not 2004 as he says in the article. And Leon Cameron didn't get brownlow votes that day, the votes were 3. B.Johnson, 2. R.Smith 1. S.Cox
              yes you are right

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              • Rocket Science
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2007
                • 4852

                #8
                Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                That era was the wellspring of a bitter distaste for that mob I harbour enthusiastically to this day.

                Daffy, Chaffey, Knighta, that joyless prick Campbo, I could go on. It became a game within the game to wind those turds up.

                How I pine for the days when if you wanted the four points you had to go through the Wog Squad to get them.
                BORDERLINE FLYING

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27655

                  #9
                  Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                  Originally posted by Rocket Science
                  That era was the wellspring of a bitter distaste for that mob I harbour enthusiastically to this day.

                  Daffy, Chaffey, Knighta, that joyless prick Campbo, I could go on. It became a game within the game to wind those turds up.

                  How I pine for the days when if you wanted the four points you had to go through the Wog Squad to get them.


                  Great days. Having grown up in the late 60s and early 70s I already hated Richmomd when I arrived at the 'G that day but the hatred grew a fair bit that day.


                  Bloody Knights is a bleeder though. It was oozing out of every oriface in his body!
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • The Pie Man
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2008
                    • 3497

                    #10
                    Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                    IIRC Daniel Bandy had a blinder that Saturday afternoon.....still a bit sad he couldn't get his body right.

                    EDIT : the game I'm thinking of was 2002.
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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10152

                      #11
                      Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Only my favourite round 1 of all time
                      I was living in Adelaide at the time and vividly remember getting into my car that night and hearing the score. What a cracking result that was...the start of something.
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66727

                        #12
                        Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                        Originally posted by Ozza
                        The game Bob is referring to actually happened in 2001, not 2004 as he says in the article. And Leon Cameron didn't get brownlow votes that day, the votes were 3. B.Johnson, 2. R.Smith 1. S.Cox
                        Amended on the club website
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                        • Topdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7471

                          #13
                          Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                          The draw is my fav memory

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66727

                            #14
                            Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                            Originally posted by Topdog
                            The draw is my fav memory
                            Nathan Brown's celebration
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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27655

                              #15
                              Re: The forgotten rivalry - Bulldogs v Tigers

                              Originally posted by Topdog
                              The draw is my fav memory
                              Poor old Brian Lake had to limp off the ground and couldn't take the money shot. You could tell he was cut up about it! Wil Minson had to take it.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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