Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

[Twodogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I don't get it either. All what we are reading about him wanting a trade etc is just pure speculation without anything of substance to support it.

Like my mother says. "This is why we can't have nice things"

If this is how we are reacting to mere speculation the best part of12 months out then it's going to get interesting

[ledge]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What did Smith do exactly to make us all hate him so much? Be merely pretty good at footy? Be too hot? I find comments like “I’d drive him to his new team” pretty weird.

The media are very good at making people look bad or good and people fall for it.
He has always been very friendly to fans and just got on with playing footy . Yes he had an indiscretion of being a young person and doing drugs of some sort . Part of learning to mature. We all make mistakes.
It also doesn’t help when the media take photos of him having fun with mates who happen to play for another club. Insinuating he is leaving.
All players have mates who play for other teams.
He has issues of being too hard on himself as well but he has actually been very good for us with the cotton on stuff he does by lifting the look of the club.
I like him and would be sad to see him go.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I can't see a lot of teams coughing up a lot to trade for him given his injury. Sure there might be some clubs prepared to pay him a very good salary but we have to agree to a trade and it's optimistic to think we would get something like a top 5 pick.
The smart play would be for Smith to sign a 2 year deal with us and then test free agency.

For us. That's the issue. If he wanted to do that he would have by now.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I think the lower output on the footy field combined with the off field attention and a perceived lack of loyalty (perceived because at this stage it's assumed he'll leave no matter what) all creates a pretty unlikable persona to a lot of people (even if it's not reflective of Smith himself)

I think the admittance he didn't handle not playing in his pet position well last year turned some off him. It was clear he was an unhappy kid.
Personally I really like Bailey he's always very generous with his time and I hope we keep him.

I also believe he will leave and we will get a poor return.

[Dazza]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I think the admittance he didn't handle not playing in his pet position well last year turned some off him. It was clear he was an unhappy kid.
Personally I really like Bailey he's always very generous with his time and I hope we keep him.

I also believe he will leave and we will get a poor return.

What do ypu believe is a poor return for him? Late first rounder?

[mjp]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What did Smith do exactly to make us all hate him so much? Be merely pretty good at footy? Be too hot? I find comments like ?I?d drive him to his new team? pretty weird.

We don't hate him do we? I thought we all thought he was great and were happy/lucky to have him. I certainly do.

I guess there's a perception that "he thinks he's better than that" - 'that' being the hybrid mid-fwd role he's been playing - but he's still just a kid and he wants the ball/wants to be the best player.

Smith is awesome - hard working, diligent, great role model for his team-mates with regards his preparation AND his willingness to spend time with supporters. Could he kick it a bit better? Of course...but we should be working VERY hard to re-sign him. Aside from all of that, he is a massive media presence (maybe something else people don't like??) and that is GOOD for the club and our sponsors.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What do ypu believe is a poor return for him? Late first rounder?

Don't make me back up my thoughtless statements

Having thought about it :

0-5 : Dreamland absolute perfect scenario.
5-10 : I'll take it!
10-15 : ok now I'm getting annoyed
15 + : I hate bailey Smith.

[weltschmerz]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Johannisen also commended Bailey Smith for his involvement around the Club, despite suffering an ACL injury before the Christmas break.


“He’s also been unbelievable – he’s probably entitled to have some time off, but he’s been in the Club pretty much every time we are, just doing as much as he can,” Johannisen said of Smith.


“He’s been doing a lot of upper body circuits, and I think he’s starting to do some bike riding as well.


“To have him around just shows how much he cares about the playing group, and just wants to be part of it all.”

I like to hear this. Baz isn’t sooking it up and acting like he’s one foot out the door.

[EasternWest]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What did Smith do exactly to make us all hate him so much? Be merely pretty good at footy? Be too hot? I find comments like ?I?d drive him to his new team? pretty weird.

I don't hate him. I think he can run really fast and kick it a long way. I think he's capable of extremely good things, but inconsistently.

I think he's as good as he's going to get and will be unfulfilled potential. We did the right thing getting rid of Stringer and I think it's sound club management to look at moving him on for someone that actually makes us better.

[ShibbyUp]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

He is 23, there's basically zero chance he has peaked as a footballer. I'm sick of Pies fans talking about him like he's going there for a packet of chips. He was on the doorstep of greatness after his 21 finals series and start to 22. I'd hope the Dogs show a bit of faith in him and he shows faith in the club and they sign for 2 years to get through to free agency after his year off.

I will be extremely disappointed if he leaves this year because the Dogs definitely won't get full value for him.

[doggies ftw]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I don't hate him. I think he can run really fast and kick it a long way. I think he's capable of extremely good things, but inconsistently.

I think he's as good as he's going to get and will be unfulfilled potential. We did the right thing getting rid of Stringer and I think it's sound club management to look at moving him on for someone that actually makes us better.

Why would he not have improvement in him as a player at 22yo? What were Petracca, De Goey, Danger, Neale etc like at 22? Certainly not the players they are today?

Stringer was unfulfilled potential because he?s a fat lazy **** who doesn?t put in any effort off field, literally the complete opposite to Baz so that?s not a great comparison to be honest

[Bornadog]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What did Smith do exactly to make us all hate him so much? Be merely pretty good at footy? Be too hot? I find comments like ?I?d drive him to his new team? pretty weird.

I like him and wouldn't want to lose such a young talent - they don't grow on trees

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

He is 23, there's basically zero chance he has peaked as a footballer. I'm sick of Pies fans talking about him like he's going there for a packet of chips. He was on the doorstep of greatness after his 21 finals series and start to 22. I'd hope the Dogs show a bit of faith in him and he shows faith in the club and they sign for 2 years to get through to free agency after his year off.

I will be extremely disappointed if he leaves this year because the Dogs definitely won't get full value for him.

It's just wishful thinking for the Pies fans. I like our chances of keeping him and I would be very disappointed if he goes.

[AshMac]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What did Smith do exactly to make us all hate him so much? Be merely pretty good at footy? Be too hot? I find comments like “I’d drive him to his new team” pretty weird.

Honestly - I find it astounding that anyone would be keen to keep him.

He had an abysmal year last year, outside one or two rounds - awful. He lacks the ability to defend and had close to zero composure with football in hand and his disposal by foot is dreadful. Personally I thought he made the team worse when he played and went public with his frustration putting himself above the team.

I would have welcomed a trade for him last year.

I find it hilarious that the word ?hate? is being used. I don?t hate him, don?t know him. He has good attributes, and has shown glimpses of incredible footy over his short career. I just don?t think he fits with the bulldogs and we won?t see the best of him again.

I?m also sick of his contract in the news but granted it?s a slow footy news time.

So I?d love a good trade though agree his currency is lower now w the ACL.

[Sedat]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

From memory (different reasons obviously), Dusty was one foot out the door at round the same age as Bailey is now, and amazingly it was the lack of interest from other clubs that meant he ended up staying at Tigerland and the rest is history.

Bailey has shown his elite level in 2021 finals series and 2022 and I would be loathe to sell low right now after a down year and an ACL. Progress is not linear in life - I would absolutely back him in to recapture his best (which is very high). I hope he remains at the club beyond this year.