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  • doggies ftw
    Draftee
    • Dec 2013
    • 719

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

    Originally posted by Bigdog
    VDM’s improvement is as important as anyone next season imo. Outside of Naughton his the only player that chases with intent in the forward half. He has defensive attributes that our other forwards do not (and we need if we role if we role with the 3 tall forwards).

    Also thought he was reasonable as a lockdown defender considering he came back from a significant injury and was learning a new role at afl level.

    He’d be my first choice lockdown defender if we played him that end and my second choice small forward. And it’s line ball first forward as I think Weightman still plays a selfish brand and isn’t great defensively.
    Geez,

    This could not be possibly further from the mark - when forward Cody dwarfs VDM for tackles, tackles inside 50, pressure acts ie all the defensive statistics. Not the mention the probably 100 odd more goals he?s kicked too.

    How is Cody a selfish footballer? That is ridiculously harsh - what because he flies for marks? You do realise this has always been a massive part of his game and is a reason as to why he?s so good? Yes he needs to learn when to go and when to stay down, which he will - hes what 22yo? It?s not that simple of a thing to tell a marking target who?s spent their whole life being told to fly for everything they can get their hands to, to put that intent aside. It will come. It definitely doesn?t make him selfish.

    There?s not a single person in the AFL world who would take VDM over Cody lol, one is one of the more highly rated young forwards in the league who will be a consistent 40 goal a year forward and one is a completely flawed ?athlete? Ho won?t be on a list within 2 years

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    • SonofScray
      Coaching Staff
      • Apr 2008
      • 4234

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

      If VDM can get fit, find continuity in his game and pick up on the initial promise he showed as a quick, hard nosed type of player we will find a spot for him, and be better for it. He is coming from a long way back though.
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      • macca
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2007
        • 2360

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

        VDM does not come across as a natural footballer with the times i have seen him cough it up. The match committee see positives in him , so they must have a purpose. I am afraid his one who just wont realy stand out in a team with his fumbles. I dont see it but hope he proves me wrong

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        • josie
          Coaching Staff
          • Oct 2012
          • 4480

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

          Agree MACCA. He is spirited and fast but I think he is a bit of a headless chook who also fumbles, plus his goal kicking accuracy is poor. Would also love to see him succeed as speed is something we are short of.
          Josie :)

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10002

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

            Originally posted by macca
            VDM does not come across as a natural footballer with the times i have seen him cough it up. The match committee see positives in him , so they must have a purpose. I am afraid his one who just wont realy stand out in a team with his fumbles. I dont see it but hope he proves me wrong
            Originally posted by josie
            Agree MACCA. He is spirited and fast but I think he is a bit of a headless chook who also fumbles, plus his goal kicking accuracy is poor. Would also love to see him succeed as speed is something we are short of.
            Agree with both of these points.

            I've also been quick to criticise him because his mouth is bigger than his game. I am still in the "should get rid of him" list because I don't think he's going to bridge that gap.

            That being said he's still in our colours so I want him to succeed. I'd also like him to succeed because a yappy guy with an attitude is actually something out team could really use.
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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18957

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              Agree with both of these points.

              I've also been quick to criticise him because his mouth is bigger than his game. I am still in the "should get rid of him" list because I don't think he's going to bridge that gap.

              That being said he's still in our colours so I want him to succeed. I'd also like him to succeed because a yappy guy with an attitude is actually something out team could really use.
              Feel like he'd probably excel at Melbourne.
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              • SPower
                WOOF Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 50

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                We need a lock down Half Back and another speedy player in our best 22 is also required.

                Will it be Laith. ?
                I hope so and this year will possibly define his AFL pathway, having been on the list 6 yrs this season.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44620

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                  Originally posted by SPower
                  We need a lock down Half Back and another speedy player in our best 22 is also required.

                  Will it be Laith. ?
                  I hope so and this year will possibly define his AFL pathway, having been on the list 6 yrs this season.
                  Laith appears to be training as a forward unlike last year when he had a few runs in the back half. To me he appears to be better suited as a defender.
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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                    Is being best mates with Bailey Smith a reason why he is still with us. Just a meandering thought.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14944

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Laith appears to be training as a forward unlike last year when he had a few runs in the back half. To me he appears to be better suited as a defender.
                      I agree, although for a while he led the comp in repeat sprints (playing as a defensive forward) so his defensive pressure in the front half is something we also lack.

                      I'm kind of hoping Charlie Clarke forces his way into the 22 sooner rather than later. I still think VDM could be that hard-arse small defender we need because right now we don't have many options on our list.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66687

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                        This bloke runs and runs. There was a great piece of play where VDM ran at least 50m down the wing to give an option coming out of defence. Watching from ground level you can appreciate the effort he puts in.
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                        • angelopetraglia
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6838

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          This bloke runs and runs. There was a great piece of play where VDM ran at least 50m down the wing to give an option coming out of defence. Watching from ground level you can appreciate the effort he puts in.
                          Agree. I sat only a few rows back on Saturday. He definitely covers the ground incredibly well, but I was also impressed with his intensity at the contest. He also held a couple of strong marks on Saturday too. He is improving.

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5640

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                            It's been a much better year for Laith. Gone are the brain fades, the maniacal running at all times and the poor skills. Replaced by smart positioning, using his pace to impact only when needed and some good finishing.

                            He has earned some criticism in the past, but this year I think his growth has been more obvious.

                            Next step is to get a bit more of the ball and convert a few more opportunities. Averaging 10 touches, along with 8.5 goals from 15 games. Even his tackle (2.1) and pressure (10.7) numbers are lower than I expected.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15301

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                              Originally posted by jazzadogs
                              It's been a much better year for Laith. Gone are the brain fades, the maniacal running at all times and the poor skills.
                              jeemak agrees. Although West does not like how he is now jeemaks "favourite" player.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66687

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Laitham Vandermeer

                                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                                Agree. I sat only a few rows back on Saturday. He definitely covers the ground incredibly well, but I was also impressed with his intensity at the contest. He also held a couple of strong marks on Saturday too. He is improving.
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