AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65805

    Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

    Originally posted by G-Mo77
    I do as well and my comment when people were celebrating when Dunkley was lining up 15 out directly infront was "He has to kick it first"
    I said the same thing.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • macca
      Coaching Staff
      • Sep 2007
      • 2352

      Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

      Originally posted by Sedat
      Haven't seen any of the game but the best thing Gold Coast did was get rid of those primadonna arseholes Ablett, Lynch and May. They are now all committed and invested, which is in stark contrast to the appalling culture and standards that the former 3 captains created.
      they have really cleaned up their list and injected some new players who can hold a position:

      Collins, ballard and Burgess look to have immediate affect holding down specific positions.
      weller
      Jarrod witts, looks to be a solid citizen and now in the leadership group. a genuine tap ruckman . How the hell we did not pick him up when pies trade him for pick 44 and 62?
      MAcpherson ( his the one that got away from us) - we picked the wrong one !
      anthony miles

      and some of their established players really coming through now:
      Swallow is having a good start
      Harbrow, damn it, his good in defence today
      Sexton: How the hell did he get so much space ? 2 goals
      Bowes , fiorini, martin top 3 possession holders.

      Well done to them, you got to admit when opposition were better today.
      Last edited by macca; 08-04-2019, 11:44 PM.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11792

        Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

        Originally posted by Rocket Science
        I do this with just about everyone except ... uhhhh, no, make that everyone.

        Who do you truly trust in front of goal? Dickson? Sure, usually. Schache? Okay. Then who?
        I guess Wallis. Strangely enough Naughton might be entering that group though I still don't quite trust him yet.
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11792

          Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

          Originally posted by macca
          MAcpherson ( his the one that got away from us) - we picked the wrong one !
          The legacy of the Honeychurch continues to haunt us to this day...
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • Jeanette54
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2009
            • 1233

            Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

            Ok guys, it's confession time.

            It wasn't the players, the coach, the boot studder, or indeed the property steward who caused our loss to the "Sons.

            It was me.

            For once I did not wear my non failing, lucky, match day, Bulldog tee shirt.

            Profound apologies to all, it won't happen again.

            Mea culpa.
            The truth will set you free,
            but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

              I hope you've learned your lesson Jeanette.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Rocket Science
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2007
                • 4847

                Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                Originally posted by hujsh
                The legacy of the Honeychurch continues to haunt us to this day...
                This sticks in my craw every time Son-of-Super gets a touch.

                Hope Mitch is having fun at Vermont.
                BORDERLINE FLYING

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10956

                  Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                  Originally posted by macca
                  Jarrod witts, looks to be a solid citizen and now in the leadership group. a genuine tap ruckman . How the hell we did not pick him up when pies delisted him?
                  Witts wasn't delisted - it was a trade for picks 44 + 62.

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10956

                    Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Not a bad suggestion to be honest although if you are consistently pushing them left all the time you should be able to make the adjustment. Perhaps sports science department isn't allowing him to do the work on his goal kicking but surely an assistant coach can stand behind him at training and tell him what he is doing wrong.
                    I bet at training they all sail straight through the middle though.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44050

                      Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      I bet at training they all sail straight through the middle though.
                      And if that is the case, he must be a bit of a choker or he just isn't the elite player we think he is
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65805

                        Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        And if that is the case, he must be a bit of a choker or he just isn't the elite player we think he is
                        Unfair comment, you know match conditions are way different than training. He needs to get it right in his head.
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                        • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8873

                          Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Unfair comment, you know match conditions are way different than training. He needs to get it right in his head.
                          But I think that is the crux of Gary's comment.
                          If you are the elite player, it doesn't matter if it is training or match day; more often than not they sail through the middle in either. If not then you are susceptible to the mental choke and therefore not an elite player.
                          Bont has almost all the hallmarks of an elite player, but over 2 years now, his goalkicking has deteriorated to a significant extent. He is no longer a reliable shot for goal, and in the role he plays we need him to be.

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                          • FrediKanoute
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3807

                            Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            I thought The Bont was brilliant today, Yeah he missed those shots but at the end of the day, both teams had the same number of shots.

                            We lost this game because we were inefficient with our inside 50s. Once more we had 66 inside 50s to their 48. When we did have a chance to kick goals we fluffed it, ala Dickson getting run down, LLoyd and Gowers handballing to them in the goal square, Macrae refusing to have a shot and trying to centre the ball.

                            We have to address the delivery to our forwards.
                            This about sums it up for me. You look at the stats and we should have won this game by 5 or 6 goals. Bad kicking is bad football. Need to move on.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65805

                              Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                              Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                              But I think that is the crux of Gary's comment.
                              If you are the elite player, it doesn't matter if it is training or match day; more often than not they sail through the middle in either. If not then you are susceptible to the mental choke and therefore not an elite player.
                              Bont has almost all the hallmarks of an elite player, but over 2 years now, his goalkicking has deteriorated to a significant extent. He is no longer a reliable shot for goal, and in the role he plays we need him to be.
                              I can't agree, The Bont is elite and at 23 years of age he is going well.

                              Here is a list of the AFL best and their goal kicking % over their career

                              Bont 53.4%
                              Martin 56.9%
                              Dangerfield 56.9%
                              Kelly 46.7%
                              Cripps 42.2%
                              Fyfe 58.3%
                              I think Bont holds his own and will get better
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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15271

                                Re: AFL Game Day Round 3, 2019 - Western Bulldogs V Gold Coast Suns at Marvel Stadium

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I can't agree, The Bont is elite and at 23 years of age he is going well.

                                Here is a list of the AFL best and their goal kicking % over their career

                                Bont 53.4%
                                Martin 56.9%
                                Dangerfield 56.9%
                                Kelly 46.7%
                                Cripps 42.2%
                                Fyfe 58.3%
                                I think Bont holds his own and will get better
                                He's kicked 1.6 this year, with a couple not scoring at all.. he is playing extremely well, but he simply needs to convert more than he currently is.

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