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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    BT's Membership Score - Compare

    So I've devised a simple maths equation that can tell you how our great VFL/AFL team has fared since you specifically have been a member. I've gone back as far as 1950, sorry for anyone with skin in the game longer. Each season I've marked how far from the bottom spot on the ladder we finished. I've gone this way not out of negativity, but as the size of the ladders change over the years it made it harder to find a set number. So this is it. So if we finished 2 spots off the bottom, as in 1950, I've put in 2. So just identify the year followed/joined, tally up the points for those years. Divide that total by the number of years and you have an average 'membership score'. Here are the years:

    1950 - 2
    1951 - 8
    1952 - 2
    1953 - 9
    1954 - 11 (GF, Premiers)
    1955 - 7
    1956 - 8
    1957 - 6
    1958 - 1
    1959 - 0 (wooden spoon)
    1960 - 3
    1961 - 10 (grand final)
    1962 - 7
    1963 - 3
    1964 - 5
    1965 - 3
    1966 - 3
    1967 - 0 (wooden spoon)
    1968 - 3
    1969 - 2
    1970 - 5
    1971 - 4
    1972 - 5
    1973 - 3
    1974 - 7
    1975 - 5
    1976 - 7
    1977 - 5
    1978 - 1
    1979 - 3
    1980 - 2
    1981 - 1
    1982 - 0 (wooden spoon)
    1983 - 5
    1984 - 5
    1985 - 10
    1986 - 4
    1987 - 7
    1988 - 6
    1989 - 1
    1990 - 7
    1991 - 5
    1992 - 13
    1993 - 6
    1994 - 10
    1995 - 9
    1996 - 1
    1997 - 13
    1998 - 14
    1999 - 12
    2000 - 9
    2001 - 6
    2002 - 4
    2003 - 0 (wooden spoon)
    2004 - 2
    2005 - 7
    2006 - 8
    2007 - 3
    2008 - 13
    2009 - 13
    2010 - 12
    2011 - 7
    2012 - 3
    2013 - 3
    2014 - 4
    2015 - 12
    2016 - 17 (GF, Premiers)
    2017 - 8
    2018 - 5

    Simply tally the scores from the year you started following or were a member from (generally not before you were 5 years old). Then divide that number by the numbers of years.

    In my case, my points total 240. Years following is 32 > 240 points/32 years = 7.5

    So my membership score is 7.5 (including 1 X Grand Final, 1 X Premeirship, 1 X Wooden Spoon)

    I've got to say I'm pretty happy with 7.5. Plus only one spoon to GF/Premeirship ratio is better than comparable smaller Vic clubs over the journey.

    That also means we averaged 7.5 spots off the bottom of the ladder in my time. The higher your score, the better time you've had of it. For instance if you joined/followed from 2008, your membership score would be a whopping 9. Or if you followed Hawthorn in 13-15, a score of 17. The lower the score, well you guys and girls especially watching the 60's & 70's, there's always next year to make a dint in your membership score.

    So how do you and your time as part of the club rate on the membership score?
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 06-06-2019, 01:11 PM. Reason: 1979 updated
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • Ozza
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Mar 2008
    • 6403

    #2
    Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

    Not too dissimilar to you - 30 years at 7.56.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18899

      #3
      Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

      81 first year of membership at 5.

      265 / 38 = 6.97
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        #4
        Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

        Originally posted by Ozza
        Not too dissimilar to you - 30 years at 7.56.
        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        81 first year of membership at 5.

        265 / 38 = 6.97
        Not too bad a time Ozza.

        GG, sub 7. You've done some harder time and you're still so positive. Respect.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66138

          #5
          Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

          First started following the club when I was 5 (lived close to the ground and my father took me) - 1961

          354/58 = 6.1

          2 Grandfinals, 1 Premiership, 3 Wooden Spoons.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            #6
            Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

            Originally posted by bornadog
            First started following the club when I was 5 (lived close to the ground and my father took me) - 1961

            354/58 = 6.1

            2 Grandfinals, 1 Premiership, 3 Wooden Spoons.
            6.1 . Wow. How many clubs would have rock solid members like you at 6.1 over 58 years? A 'respect' to you too.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66138

              #7
              Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              6.1 . Wow. How many clubs would have rock solid members like you at 6.1 over 58 years? A 'respect' to you too.
              The worst part was following the club in the 1960's (after 61). Didn't play in a final till 1974 - 12 years. Going to Primary school, then high school being one of a few Doggies supporters in the outer Western Suburbs (we moved at the end of 62) was really tough. I just couldn't see myself changing to another club. When I was 11 a kid did convince me to support South Melbourne - it lasted about 5 days - and I am ashamed of it

              However, we won a lot of games at home which made it palatable.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11023

                #8
                Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                I'm a bulldog since birth but the first season I can really remember is 1985 when I was 6/7, so from that point 7.5.

                From when I became a member in 1998 - 7.7, so not much different.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14868

                  #9
                  Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                  Calculating my second membership stint from 2001 after I came back to Melbourne.

                  127/18 = 7.05

                  The Rhode years hurt.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #10
                    Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                    Originally posted by Axe Man
                    I'm a bulldog since birth but the first season I can really remember is 1985 when I was 6/7, so from that point 7.5.

                    From when I became a member in 1998 - 7.7, so not much different.
                    That’s really interesting. To only have .2 over 13 years. We were consistent if nothing else.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Flamethrower
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1355

                      #11
                      Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                      Note - 1979 should be a 3 (we finished 9th).

                      Supporter since 1978 - for a 6.6 (271/41)
                      Member since 1980 - 6.8 (267/39)

                      Those early years were tough, especially the first half of the 1980 season and the entire 1981 and 1982 seasons.
                      Footscray member since 1980.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #12
                        Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                        Current Comparison Tally (Higher = more overall team success during membership, lower = less overall team success during membership):

                        Ozza 7.56
                        BT 7.5
                        Axe 7.5
                        Mofra 7.05
                        GG 6.97
                        FT 6.6
                        BAD 6.1
                        B4L 5.86

                        As flat as I've been as a member from time to time, maybe I've taken things for granted looking at the early comparisons. I've had a far better time of things, more than I thought.
                        Last edited by bulldogtragic; 06-06-2019, 01:17 PM.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          #13
                          Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                          Similar to BAD I started going regularly to see the doggies in 1958. I was at the 1961 Grand Final aged 10. I have been going regularly ever since some seasons more than others. My score is 358/61 = 5.86

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #14
                            Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                            Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                            Similar to BAD I started going regularly to see the doggies in 1958. I was at the 1961 Grand Final aged 10. I have been going regularly ever since some seasons more than others. My score is 358/61 = 5.86
                            I didn't contemplate anyone would score under 6. You sir, deserve a medal from the club. On a side note, what period of time (say 2+ years) was the hardest slog for you? (And others with low scores)
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66138

                              #15
                              Re: BT's Membership Score - Compare

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              I didn't contemplate anyone would score under 6. You sir, deserve a medal from the club. On a side note, what period of time (say 2+ years) was the hardest slog for you? (And others with low scores)
                              Similar to Flamethrower the 80's from 1980 to 1982 were very hard as I was now a lot older than a kid in the 1960s and it hit me harder.
                              In 1980 we lost the first 11 games , and won 5. In 1981 we had two wins, beating the Bombers and would you believe Melbourne at VFL park. In 1982, we won just 3 games

                              In 3 years or 66 games, we won 10 games.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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