Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    #16
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

    Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
    I would add JJ to your players to be dropped. He has been poor for most of the year as he was again today.
    Yes agreed. JJ gave away two important goals in the 1stQtr. Not taking the game on. Sorely lacking in confidence.
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    • Danjul
      WOOF Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 1601

      #17
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Out: Cordy, Schache if he doesn't come up

      In: Morris, Roberts (played well today)

      Trengove into the ruck, English limited time in the ruck, swapping with Trengove,

      I am tempted to get rid of Roarke, but too many changes.
      Schache got hurt just in front of me and I couldn’t understand why trainers were not with him immediately.

      He should be out for a few weeks, he didn’t know where he was and could not stand up or walk properly.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #18
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

        I’m overseas and didn’t watch the game. I listened to the first half and then went back to enjoying my Italian holiday.

        We can’t drop everyone and make wholesale changes.

        We need to understand our best 25 going forward, are B Dale, R Smith and Glorious Tory part of it? If not make the call.

        Otherwise changes for injury with Mighty Moz, b wiiliams and the son of the west to come in.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44411

          #19
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

          I suspect there might be two changes with 3 an outside chance

          With Schache a likely out for a few weeks our lack of KP depth on the playing list is really being tested

          The ins to come from Roberts, Hayes, West, Lachie and Lewis Young.
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66301

            #20
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

            Originally posted by Danjul
            Schache got hurt just in front of me and I couldn’t understand why trainers were not with him immediately.

            He should be out for a few weeks, he didn’t know where he was and could not stand up or walk properly.
            I saw him come to the interchange bench barely able to stand up.
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            • Danjul
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 1601

              #21
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

              There’s been a lot of discussion about teams sacking coaches before they play the Dogs.

              But there are other similarities between those losses.

              1. Short backline syndrome: 3 or more backmen trying to spoil at the same contest, leaving only Saints in the clear 5m from the pack. This led to a number of goals.

              2. The Dogs played 10m closer to the boundary line. Sitting behind the goal square this was very obvious. It led to

              more handballs, and under pressure,
              less margin for error when kicking to teammates
              and slower movement forward.

              3. Partly because of point 2 the forward entries were often shallow and wide. Only Dale and Dickson were confident kicking at goal. Others tried to pass in a crowded area and turned the ball over.

              4. English and Naughton spent a lot of time 30m from goal watching teammates kicking the ball wide (away from them). By the time the ball came in their direction they were in a pack and the kick was too high.

              None of these observations have any to do with opposition coaches but all helped us lose.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14883

                #22
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I suspect there might be two changes with 3 an outside chance

                With Schache a likely out for a few weeks our lack of KP depth on the playing list is really being tested

                The ins to come from Roberts, Hayes, West, Lachie and Lewis Young.
                Lewie could barely walk properly a couple of weeks ago, I don't think he'll be ready for a couple of weeks.

                West looks ready, can we move Lippi forward a bit more and add west tot he midfield rotations? Libba also spent time forward.
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                • Danjul
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 1601

                  #23
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  I saw him come to the interchange bench barely able to stand up.
                  Schache’s injury highlights a problem with how the game is/was managed. He took a long time to get up, obviously didn’t know where he was, eventually staggered towards the bench 100m away. On his way the play followed him. If he had collected the ball and been tackled while concussed the severity of his injury would have been magnified.

                  The game should have been stopped.

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    #24
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I suspect there might be two changes with 3 an outside chance

                    With Schache a likely out for a few weeks our lack of KP depth on the playing list is really being tested

                    The ins to come from Roberts, Hayes, West, Lachie and Lewis Young.
                    And Morris must be and in I would think G.

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                    • lemmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 6508

                      #25
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Lewie could barely walk properly a couple of weeks ago, I don't think he'll be ready for a couple of weeks.

                      West looks ready, can we move Lippi forward a bit more and add west tot he midfield rotations? Libba also spent time forward.
                      Wouldn't mind West having a crack as a forward. A lack of forward pressure has been a theme through the year.

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                      • Nuggety Back Pocket
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2064

                        #26
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                        Originally posted by Danjul
                        Schache’s injury highlights a problem with how the game is/was managed. He took a long time to get up, obviously didn’t know where he was, eventually staggered towards the bench 100m away. On his way the play followed him. If he had collected the ball and been tackled while concussed the severity of his injury would have been magnified.

                        The game should have been stopped.
                        The whole incident with Schache was a sham both from the Umpires and the slowness of our training staff to react. The incident occurred close to where we were sitting and he obviously was in a great deal of distress. It was a blight on our game in what could have led to further complications to Schache’s health.

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                        • Bullies
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 1807

                          #27
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                          He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule

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                          • mjp
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7320

                            #28
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                            Originally posted by Bullies
                            He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule
                            To be fair to Josh, I don't think he was totally aware what was going on...his team-mates should have told the umpire though.
                            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66301

                              #29
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                              Originally posted by Bullies
                              He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule
                              Originally posted by mjp
                              To be fair to Josh, I don't think he was totally aware what was going on...his team-mates should have told the umpire though.
                              I read on Twitter that Mick Malthouse on 774, called him soft for not going up for the ruck contest, after he got up.
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                              • Danjul
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 1601

                                #30
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Rd 19 vs Fremantle

                                Originally posted by Bullies
                                He also had a blood nose so should have told the umpire to stop for the blood rule
                                Schache was not capable of telling anyone anything. I have never seen any football player in such a disoriented state.

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