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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 11150

    Re: Player Contract Status

    Originally posted by FrediKanoute
    Appreciate that its moot now he has re-signed, but why would you gift a player a finals spot when you could give that to another equally capable player who is invested in the cause. Even if the skills gap is wide I would want 100% commitment to the cause.
    If it was a 50/50 choice, sure. But if a player that is in your best 22 is likely leaving why would damage your own chances of winning? It’s easy to have principles when there’s nothing on the line. Players are pros and teammates are much more understanding than fans generally are. I don’t think there are many sports in the world where this would even be a question.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      Re: Player Contract Status

      A genuine question, please don’t read anything into it.

      I thought we had a club rule that 30+ players get one year deals. Easton got two years last year. I’ve tried to find out why online and don’t have an answer. I wasn’t paying attention last year, so I don’t know. Why was Wood given 2 years?
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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66688

        Re: Player Contract Status

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        A genuine question, please don’t read anything into it.

        I thought we had a club rule that 30+ players get one year deals. Easton got two years last year. I’ve tried to find out why online and don’t have an answer. I wasn’t paying attention last year, so I don’t know. Why was Wood given 2 years?
        I think that rule is out the door. In the past very few players could play well when they reached 30 plus, but these days with better training, diet etc lots of players are playing into their early 30s. That is all I can think of.
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: Player Contract Status

          Originally posted by bornadog
          I think that rule is out the door. In the past very few players could play well when they reached 30 plus, but these days with better training, diet etc lots of players are playing into their early 30s. That is all I can think of.
          But Duryea is younger now, than Wood was last year. Doc just got a one year deal off the back of an outstanding season.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15444

            Re: Player Contract Status

            No idea why Easton received 2yrs.. maybe it was a loyalty thing due to being an ex-captain, but his body keeps failing him and his impact when playing is lessened. If not contracted for next year I'd be looking for him to retire.

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            • SquirrelGrip
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2007
              • 1523

              Re: Player Contract Status

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              But Duryea is younger now, than Wood was last year. Doc just got a one year deal off the back of an outstanding season.
              Doc isn't our first Premiership Captain in 62 years. I think there's a bit of that in Easton's 2 year extension. I don't mind too much as a one off to be honest.
              "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11150

                Re: Player Contract Status

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                A genuine question, please don’t read anything into it.

                I thought we had a club rule that 30+ players get one year deals. Easton got two years last year. I’ve tried to find out why online and don’t have an answer. I wasn’t paying attention last year, so I don’t know. Why was Wood given 2 years?
                There was much debate about it at the time. I was in the 1 year camp and couldn't understand why he was given 2. If his form and fitness this season warranted another 1 year contract for 2022 then fine. The other camp seemed to believe he deserved 2 years being a premiership captain and all. I believe his previous contract was very generous and he had already received just reward for his prior service.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66688

                  Re: Player Contract Status

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  There was much debate about it at the time. I was in the 1 year camp and couldn't understand why he was given 2. If his form and fitness this season warranted another 1 year contract for 2022 then fine. The other camp seemed to believe he deserved 2 years being a premiership captain and all. I believe his previous contract was very generous and he had already received just reward for his prior service.
                  I happy with 2 years and would have been happy with Doc getting two. We need experience in our backline.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: Player Contract Status

                    Originally posted by Axe Man
                    There was much debate about it at the time. I was in the 1 year camp and couldn't understand why he was given 2. If his form and fitness this season warranted another 1 year contract for 2022 then fine. The other camp seemed to believe he deserved 2 years being a premiership captain and all. I believe his previous contract was very generous and he had already received just reward for his prior service.
                    Was he in red hot form? Was there no 1 (+ 1 Trigger)? Or just being a Premiership Captain gets you tenure above and beyond the rule applied to others?
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44622

                      Re: Player Contract Status

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      A genuine question, please don’t read anything into it.

                      I thought we had a club rule that 30+ players get one year deals. Easton got two years last year. I’ve tried to find out why online and don’t have an answer. I wasn’t paying attention last year, so I don’t know. Why was Wood given 2 years?
                      It's only a rule or a position when they want it to be a rule and the club would make more allowances for Easton

                      On form Duryea probably deserved a 2 year deal
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                      • SquirrelGrip
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1523

                        Re: Player Contract Status

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Or just being a Premiership Captain gets you tenure above and beyond the rule applied to others?
                        This.
                        "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11150

                          Re: Player Contract Status

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I happy with 2 years and would have been happy with Doc getting two. We need experience in our backline.
                          But where is the advantage in giving out a 2 year contract to either of them? They aren't likely to be poached by anybody else. I can only see downside where they breakdown and we are stuck with them a year longer than we needed to be. Doc missed almost all of last season. If that happens again next year and he signed a 2 year contract we might be stuck with a player that can't get on the park for 2 years instead of 1.

                          The only way a 2 year contract for a player near the end could make sense is if the player was taking reduced terms across 2 years v 1.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66688

                            Re: Player Contract Status

                            Originally posted by Axe Man
                            But where is the advantage in giving out a 2 year contract to either of them? They aren't likely to be poached by anybody else. I can only see downside where they breakdown and we are stuck with them a year longer than we needed to be. Doc missed almost all of last season. If that happens again next year and he signed a 2 year contract we might be stuck with a player that can't get on the park for 2 years instead of 1.

                            The only way a 2 year contract for a player near the end could make sense is if the player was taking reduced terms across 2 years v 1.
                            I would say dollars are substantially down compared to previous years.
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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18959

                              Re: Player Contract Status

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              But where is the advantage in giving out a 2 year contract to either of them? They aren't likely to be poached by anybody else. I can only see downside where they breakdown and we are stuck with them a year longer than we needed to be. Doc missed almost all of last season. If that happens again next year and he signed a 2 year contract we might be stuck with a player that can't get on the park for 2 years instead of 1.

                              The only way a 2 year contract for a player near the end could make sense is if the player was taking reduced terms across 2 years v 1.
                              You haven't taken into account the Barkly St. podcost co-hosting position.

                              Could it be a dollars v years equation?

                              Say Easton took a security deal over dollars now for eg with a new youngster in the fam.

                              I was joking but maybe he does supplement the lower figure with some extra curricular activity like the podcast.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11150

                                Re: Player Contract Status

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I would say dollars are substantially down compared to previous years.
                                Of course they are, I'm not seeing the relevance?

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