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  • AshMac
    WOOF Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 1712

    #46
    Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

    Originally posted by 1eyedog
    Agreed and that was what I was getting at. Play him deep. He's smart, a great mark, kicks well and can apply heavy pressure. He needs to become a Picken-type player to survive.
    Agree. He is so classy in traffic around the forward 50 and knows where the goals are.
    The dam wall has busted!

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13235

      #47
      Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Doesn’t Bailey Dale play deep? I know players interchange positions readily, but I see Dale as being more effective and with greater scope in that area.

      And I’m not sure McLean applies heavy pressure. He is ok in this area, but it isn’t a strength of his game.
      Np I disagree.
      Last edited by 1eyedog; 15-10-2019, 11:27 AM.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #48
        Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        B: Suckling - Le. Young - Wood
        HB: JJ - Keath - Crozier
        C: Hunter - Dunkley - Richards
        HF: Schache - Bruce - McLean
        F: Lloyd - Naughton - Dale
        R: English - Bontempelli - Macrae
        Int: Smith, Liberatore, Daniel, Lipinski
        Emerg: Williams, Trengove, Wallis, Duryea

        Then: Cordy, West, Hayes, Vandermeer, Gowers, Cavarra, Jong, Greene, Lynch, Porter, La Young, Sweet, Khamis,

        Outs: ? Webb, Roberts, Dickson, Gardner, Roarke
        More ins: ?
        And a pick 13 kid maybe too. Looks better knowing their ours for sure.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • merantau
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2015
          • 4057

          #49
          Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

          I want Trengove in the 22 Round 1. We are definitely in a good position to have a real crack at it.
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          "It's not about the destination - it's about the trip."

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          • AshMac
            WOOF Member
            • Aug 2018
            • 1712

            #50
            Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

            Originally posted by merantau
            I want Trengove in the 22 Round 1. We are definitely in a good position to have a real crack at it.
            Who comes out of the round 23 team to allow JT and Keath in? Assuming you also want Keath in R1
            The dam wall has busted!

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            • The Doctor
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 3702

              #51
              Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

              Western Bulldogs

              B: Wood, Cordy, Crozier
              HB: JJ, Keath, Suckling
              C: Hunter, Dunkley, Smith
              HF:Schache, Naughton, Dale
              F: Dickson, Bruce, Lloyd
              R:English, Bont, Macrae
              Int: Daniel, Wallis, Duryea, Libba


              Footscray

              B: Young, Trengove, Khamis
              HB: Vandermeer, Young, Lynch
              C: Williams, McLean, Richards
              HF:Hayes, CHF, Jong
              F: Cavarra, FF, Gowers
              R: Sweet, Lipinski, West
              Int: Porter, Greene,

              we are missing a couple of big guys who can play forward

              Add up to 6 Draftees/Rookies

              emg: Gardner, Roberts, Webb, R.Smith (all uncontracted atm)
              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44649

                #52
                Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                Doc, that's tough on Richards, McLean and Lipinski and it's a small IC bench but otherwise a good line-up

                Just think we have to play either Trengove or Lewis Young
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15448

                  #53
                  Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                  Doc,

                  It’s a tough job, but the issues I have with your team are:

                  * I’m not having Cordy playing as a tall defender. He either plays in a BP or on a flank or doesn’t play.
                  * Can’t see Dickson playing first up (if at all) and especially along with Lloyd & Dale.
                  * As per GVGjr’s comments I’m not a fan of the bench... think we have better options than many of those in the 2’s.

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                  • kruder
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2011
                    • 3858

                    #54
                    Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                    Looking at Docs side just highlights to me what a good job Power did over the last trade period. We are at the point with our list that we need clearly best 22 role players rather than play around the periphery.

                    Would love to replace Dickson(one of my favs) with Papley, I'm glad we didn't go after someone like Bulter would have been around the edges all so.

                    We have so many similar types around these edges, that it's very difficult to pick a side. Is there a significant difference either way? Thats the question I have.

                    We need a massive preseason from Richards, he has traits that we lack, there is clearly a role in the 22 for him. I'll give him a pass this year, thought he was the luckiest player on the list but obviously the match committee can see these traits but they weren't there nearly enough.

                    I'm really excited about La Young. We have depth in his position but it's getting on a bit I think he will be clearly best 22 soon enough.

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                    • Nuggety Back Pocket
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2064

                      #55
                      Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Doc, that's tough on Richards, McLean and Lipinski and it's a small IC bench but otherwise a good line-up

                      Just think we have to play either Trengove or Lewis Young
                      Agree on Trengrove who is best suited at FB against the opposition’s tall key forwards. Lipinski deserves to be played. The recruitment of Keath indicates he is being preferred to Lew Young. Cordy deserves to remain as the third big defender. The jury is still out on Libba to be in our best 22 given his spate of injuries. Dickson given an injury free preseason is hard to ignore given his value as a goal kicker. Believe Duryea and Lach Young offer better skills than Suckling. Richards has pace which isn’t a strength of our smaller brigade

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6932

                        #56
                        Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                        B: Wood, Le. Young, Crozier
                        HB: JJ, Keath, Duryea
                        C: Hunter, Macrae, B.Smith
                        HF: Daniel, Naughton, Lloyd
                        F: Dale, Bruce, Schache
                        R: English, Bont, Dunkley
                        Int: McLean, Libba, Suckling, Lipsinki
                        ---------------------------------------------
                        I wouldn't have Schache locked in. He has to do a lot more now to get a game. Would love to see Richards doing well as we could do with his type. Wally needs to get a body of work going a bit as we have a lot of his type but not discounting early.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #57
                          Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                          It looks like a hard team to break into next year. But if those out of the 22 put in good performances, those in the 22 better be performing. I love serious competition.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44649

                            #58
                            Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                            Originally posted by The Doctor

                            Footscray

                            B: Young, Trengove, Khamis
                            HB: Vandermeer, Young, Lynch
                            C: Williams, McLean, Richards
                            HF:Hayes, CHF, Jong
                            F: Cavarra, FF, Gowers
                            R: Sweet, Lipinski, West
                            Int: Porter, Greene,

                            we are missing a couple of big guys who can play forward

                            Add up to 6 Draftees/Rookies

                            emg: Gardner, Roberts, Webb, R.Smith (all uncontracted atm)
                            I was listening to Wylie Buzza on SEN yesterday and thought he would be worth considering for a spot
                            When look at the Footscray team I think we need his type that can play forward and take a turn in the ruck as needed
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15314

                              #59
                              Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                              Originally posted by AshMac
                              Who comes out of the round 23 team to allow JT and Keath in? Assuming you also want Keath in R1
                              Lewis Young for mine.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #60
                                Re: 2020: Round 1 Team

                                Yes, we’ve lost some towering figures: Morris, Picken, Boyd, Roberts (AFL P’Ship Players) & Webb (VFL P’Ship Player).

                                But over the past two years of a maximum 220 games played between them (ie. 5 x 22 games, x2 seasons), their output was just 33 combined games over two years. We are not having to cover their impact on the team, while signing Bruce & Keath (who are highly likely to play more than 33 games combined next year) and a pick 13 quality kid.

                                The list turnover of five, now formal, already feels like a strong advance moving into Round 1.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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