Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

[Mofra]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

He is and he will be a good footballer. The Pies did well with their latish picks

Yep Trent Bianco was a huge get. Kid barracks for the pies too.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

Rantall must be an absolute monster athlete. Winning the time trial your first year is incredible.

While it does show athletic prowess, I'm not sure many goals are kicked by running 2km non stop.

[Twodogs]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

While it does show athletic prowess, I'm not sure many goals are kicked by running 2km non stop.

I agree. If I haven't heard of a bloke that has been playing for 3 years or whatever for Collingwood then I would suggest that he isn't a very productive player.

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

I agree. If I haven't heard of a bloke that has been playing for 3 years or whatever for Collingwood then I would suggest that he isn't a very productive player.

Yeah I'm sure that's the only reason TD!

[divvydan]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

One advantage draftees have in time trials is that they usually weigh 5-10kg less than an experienced AFL player in the same role. So it really shouldn't be that surprising that for many players, their very first time trial will be their best over their whole career.

[AshMac]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

One advantage draftees have in time trials is that they usually weigh 5-10kg less than an experienced AFL player in the same role. So it really shouldn't be that surprising that for many players, their very first time trial will be their best over their whole career.

Surely that’s countered by their muscle development and time in an elite training environment?

[Mofra]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

Surely that’s countered by their muscle development and time in an elite training environment?

Yep, and the fact the kids aren't doing full pre-seasons anyway and training loads for 2nd+ players are higher. Some players take years to build their tank (Gaz Jnr, Griffen, Ward, McLean, plenty don't play midfield early as they need to build their running capacity).

[Twodogs]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

I just saw on westernbulldogs.com that Garcia is a native born New Zealender. I wonder if we've had any other kiwis play for us?

[Mofra]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

I just saw on westernbulldogs.com that Garcia is a native born New Zealender. I wonder if we've had any other kiwis play for us?

Ed 'Lambie' Barlow was an honorary Kiwi

[Missing-Dog]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

Gee I love the look of his kicking. Not shy going for a tough kick. I know it’s highlights but I like the way he puts it to advantage. My pet peeve is us not kicking to the advantage side. This makes life so much easier for the next bloke

The Richmond game was a classic example of this. When the ball was kicked to our advantage, we (well mostly Naughts) dominated. It makes the life of a forward so much easier. This is not ground breaking news I know, but it's a simple part of the game that, if executed correctly goes a long way towards a positive scoreboard result.

[The Doctor]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

While it does show athletic prowess, I'm not sure many goals are kicked by running 2km non stop.

But how many does it create and how many does it save. Especially when the others can't keep up.

[Twodogs]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

Ed 'Lambie' Barlow was an honorary Kiwi

Marty McDonnell who played 92 games for us between 1939 and 1950 is the only other NZ born Footscray player I can find.

There's a bloke called Dustin Martin who goes alright at the caper who was born in NZ.

[Twodogs]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

Player VFL/AFL Years* VFL/AFL Matches* Connections to New Zealand, References
Dustin Martin 2010– 178 Father (Maori)[46]
Ben Rutten 2003–2014 229 Mother[47]
Jasper Pittard 2011– 115 Mother[47]
Daniel Pearce 2012–2015 6 Father[47]
Marley Williams 2012– 81 Father (Maori)[47]
Nathan Van Berlo 2005–2016 182 Both parents[48]
Karmichael Hunt 2011–2014 44 Born Auckland, father from Cook Islands, mother from Samoa[49]
Shane Savage 2009- 56 Born; Maori father[50][51]
Brent Renouf 2008-2014 68 Born, both parents[51][52]
Heath Grundy 2006- 139 Mother[53]
Aaron Edwards 2003-2014 91 Father, Samoan mother[54]
Simon Black 1998–2013 322 Father (born)[47]
Paul Bower 2006–2012 70 Maori mother[55]
Brett Peake 2005-2012 118 Maori[55]
Brian Peake - 66 Maori[55]
Kurt Heatherley - 0 Born Tauranga[56] (international rookie)
Jay van Berlo 2009–2012 32 Both parents[48]
Jordan Russell[47] 2005–2013 125 Mother[48]
Adam Campbell 2006–2009 13 Born Christchurch, Parents[57]
Trent Croad 1998–2009 222 Born, Parents[58]
Daniel McAlister 1997–2002 6 Born, part Maori[55]
Danny Dickfos 1996–1999 65 Part Maori[59]
Donald Dickie 1996–2000 55 Born, part Maori
Wayne Schwass 1988–2002 282 Born, part Maori[60]
Warren Jones 1978–1988 123 Born
Peter Bennett 1944–1954 103 Born
Marty McDonnell 1939–1950 92 Born
Thomas O'Halloran 1925–1934 142 Born
Joe Sellwood 1930–1945 181 Born
Harry Haughton 1912-19 113 Born
Greg Broughton 2009-2015 110 Father (Maori) [61]
Max Gawn 2010– 74 Raised in Greymouth[62][63]
Beau Maister 2005-2014 44 Mother from Christchurch[64]

Jordan Russell too.

[Axe Man]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

Marty McDonnell who played 92 games for us between 1939 and 1950 is the only other NZ born Footscray player I can find.

There's a bloke called Dustin Martin who goes alright at the caper who was born in NZ.

Dusty was born in Castlemaine.

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Louis Butler

Dusty was born in Castlemaine.

And more importantly played for Campbells Creek in the juniors