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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6444

    Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

    Nice to see, but is it valid? What do you think of the rest of the ratings?

    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44646

    #2
    Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

    The part that is applicable to us has already been added to BT's Western Bulldogs List Management Guidebook - 2020 Edition thread
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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5569

      #3
      Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

      Originally posted by Dry Rot
      Nice to see, but is it valid? What do you think of the rest of the ratings?

      https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/cha...9a299067c0a76b
      Validity is difficult because these ratings are hindsight.

      Last years No 1 rating (Melbourne) did not work out to well.

      Richmond may have peaked and we should be improving, hopefully that means we are the team for 2020.
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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27655

        #4
        Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        Validity is difficult because these ratings are hindsight.

        Last years No 1 rating (Melbourne) did not work out to well.

        Richmond may have peaked and we should be improving, hopefully that means we are the team for 2020.
        The best indicator for the future is the past. Melbourne have been an ordinary football club for decades and have refused to take proper remedial measures to improve themselves. They would much rather try to take shortcuts to improvement and we all know that just never works.

        They are further behind the eightball now than they were at the end of the season.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • Dry Rot
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6444

          #5
          Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          The best indicator for the future is the past. Melbourne have been an ordinary football club for decades and have refused to take proper remedial measures to improve themselves. They would much rather try to take shortcuts to improvement and we all know that just never works.

          They are further behind the eightball now than they were at the end of the season.
          What do you think Champion Data will get right for 2020, and what did they will get wrong?

          Eg I reckon Swans will do a lot better next season.
          The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66726

            #6
            Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

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            • AshMac
              WOOF Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 1712

              #7
              Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

              Would love to know who the 4th elite player is and who the poor player is
              The dam wall has busted!

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11179

                #8
                Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                Validity is difficult because these ratings are hindsight.

                Last years No 1 rating (Melbourne) did not work out to well.

                Richmond may have peaked and we should be improving, hopefully that means we are the team for 2020.
                And Adelaide were rated number 2 for 2019, hopefully we go a little better in 2020 than they did this season.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14953

                  #9
                  Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                  Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                  Richmond may have peaked and we should be improving, hopefully that means we are the team for 2020.
                  Rance is a pretty handy recruit for 2020, and with Stack & Pickett getting full pre-seasons in their supporters would have enough reason to be optimistic.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11841

                    #10
                    Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                    Originally posted by AshMac
                    Would love to know who the 4th elite player is and who the poor player is
                    Probably Hunter as the 4th. The poor one is hard cause we don't know for sure who they'd have in the best 22
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11179

                      #11
                      Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      Probably Hunter as the 4th. The poor one is hard cause we don't know for sure who they'd have in the best 22
                      No Hunter, doubt anybody could have picked all 4:

                      WESTERN BULLDOGS (4)

                      Marcus Bontempelli (Midfielder)

                      Matthew Suckling (General defender)

                      Jack Macrae (Midfielder)

                      Caleb Daniel (General defender)
                      Looking at some of the players classed as elite compared to those missing is truly bizarre:
                      Revealed: The ‘elite’ players at your AFL club for season 2020

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                      • mjp
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7365

                        #12
                        Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                        Originally posted by AshMac
                        Would love to know who the 4th elite player is and who the poor player is
                        I would say POOR would be Cordy. Beaten in too many 1-on-1's from the stats I remember.

                        I would suspect the 4th elite would be one of:

                        Hunter, Crozier, Daniel. Probably Daniel based on kicking numbers.
                        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11841

                          #13
                          Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          No Hunter, doubt anybody could have picked all 4:



                          Looking at some of the players classed as elite compared to those missing is truly bizarre:
                          Revealed: The ‘elite’ players at your AFL club for season 2020
                          Oh totally forgot about Daniel. Makes sense.
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • whythelongface
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4487

                            #14
                            Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                            Interesting that they have North ranked 6th and Brisbane ranked 11th. Surely North are extremely over rated whereas Brisbane are under rated (based on last season).

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                            • Rocket Science
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4852

                              #15
                              Re: Champion Data rates us second best in 2020

                              That Brisbane ranking alone undermines the validity of the whole shabang.

                              Us at #2? Come on.
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