Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

[bulldogtragic]

Both had innate talent. Daniel a Rising Star nominee. Faulkner a first round draftee.

So who was the bigger loss for us, who didn’t reach their talent or potential. And why?

[Happy Days]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

Love these threads BT. This is exactly the sort of stuff we need to be talking about.

Even though I only have Youtube to go off, I feel like the answer is Hargraves. He actually did some things in the AFL that showed he could've been a player if not for his interests, both off-field and lack of them on-field.

Faulkner was more a classic bust; just a guy whose game didn't translate to players being that bit quicker and bigger. Plus he cost us that first game against Judas and the Tigers, which, to a younger me, was an unforgivable offence.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

Hargraves was the young gun forward we craved, but just lacked something. I think a lot had to do with how badly we developed players (talls especially).

Faulkner was a bust - taken way too high.

[Bornadog]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

I missed most of Daniel's career as I was living and working in Asia during most of the 1990's. I only saw a couple of games each year when on holidays back to Oz. Thanks to my mother-in-law, I got copies of games when we won. It is difficult to assess a player from video games.

I had high hopes for Faulkner after he was dubbed the next Mcleod and even had a chat to him at Family Day telling him this is your year.

[Mofra]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

Cam Faulkner was an 'opposite' footballer - I always felt he could do the hard things on the field but not the easy things.

Hargraves was an 'almost' footballer - it 'almost' clicked for him a few times, but never did. Plus he had he pressure of being a Bulldogs tall forward which for 30 years was almost an impossible task.

[Jeanette54]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

I seem to remember Hargraves just about winning a game off his own boot, in a last quarter win against Geelong, at the cattery. This was doubly exciting because it could have been a breakout game for him. But somehow it just never happened.

My other memory of him was at VFL park, coming out of the reserves change room and taking the time to chat with the spectators as he walked around the ground during the main game. Judging by the reception he was immensely popular with the 'Doggies fans.

Of course the other major coodabeen was Shane Loveless. Sixteen goals in two weeks, then on his way to oblivion.

[Mofra]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

Of course the other major coodabeen was Shane Loveless. Sixteen goals in two weeks, then on his way to oblivion.

My favourite all-time coodabeen was Cam Wight. 200cm, huge tank, athletic... just had the habit of having one "Cam Wight howler" moment every game, sometimes more.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

I seem to remember Hargraves just about winning a game off his own boot, in a last quarter win against Geelong, at the cattery. This was doubly exciting because it could have been a breakout game for him. But somehow it just never happened.

My other memory of him was at VFL park, coming out of the reserves change room and taking the time to chat with the spectators as he walked around the ground during the main game. Judging by the reception he was immensely popular with the 'Doggies fans.

Of course the other major coodabeen was Shane Loveless. Sixteen goals in two weeks, then on his way to oblivion.

Along with Pat Bowden, I can't believe with the talent they had that they just faded away.

[Happy Days]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

My favourite all-time coodabeen was Cam Wight. 200cm, huge tank, athletic... just had the habit of having one "Cam Wight howler" moment every game, sometimes more.

If Cam Wight came along maybe 3 years later he'd still be on a list now. Maybe not ours, but someones.

[Twodogs]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

Love these threads BT. This is exactly the sort of stuff we need to be talking about.

Even though I only have Youtube to go off, I feel like the answer is Hargraves. He actually did some things in the AFL that showed he could've been a player if not for his interests, both off-field and lack of them on-field.

Faulkner was more a classic bust; just a guy whose game didn't translate to players being that bit quicker and bigger. Plus he cost us that first game against Judas and the Tigers, which, to a younger me, was an unforgivable offence.

I asked him about that once. He just said "oh man. I found out why they call him Rocket that day"

[jeemak]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

If Cam Wight came along maybe 3 years later he'd still be on a list now. Maybe not ours, but someones.

I remember he kicked a goal against the Saints in 2008 (the same day Griffen wrong footed Blake and goaled) that showed his full running and athletic potential, but as Mofra said, he would just find ways to make himself look completely incompetent at times.

Wonder if the odd Eade bake got into his head and crippled his confidence...…..

[westdog54]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

I remember he kicked a goal against the Saints in 2008 (the same day Griffen wrong footed Blake and goaled) that showed his full running and athletic potential, but as Mofra said, he would just find ways to make himself look completely incompetent at times.

Wonder if the odd Eade bake got into his head and crippled his confidence...…..

I remember the exact goal you're talking about.

What made it even sweeter was that he ran of Justin Koschitzke to kick said goal, Cam, Brian Lake and Dale Morris were letting him know all about it prior to the centre bounce.

[Twodogs]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

I remember he kicked a goal against the Saints in 2008 (the same day Griffen wrong footed Blake and goaled) that showed his full running and athletic potential, but as Mofra said, he would just find ways to make himself look completely incompetent at times.

Wonder if the odd Eade bake got into his head and crippled his confidence...…..

Actually Eade loved Cam. He used to say to me that there were only two people who thought that Cam would make it as an AFL player (They were Rocket and me) and unfortunately Cam wasn't one of them.

[Bornadog]

Re: Biggest Lost Talent: Daniel Hargraves vs Cameron Faulkner

A wonder what happened to these guys? Did they end up playing local footy?