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  • Missing-Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 3102

    #16
    Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

    Originally posted by HAB54
    I have been turning off the radio whenever he comes on, since I first heard him.
    I turn SEN off whenever Thomas is on, or they start talking about horse racing, basketball, tennis and boxing.

    Do you reckon someone could pull Grant Thomas aside and let him know that he no longer is coach at St Kilda. I am certain he still turns up to Moorabbin on training days with a his tracksuit, a clipboard and his own set of witches hats and pretends he is in control. He would be the coaching version of that guy that used to dress as Mark Harvey at the old Army Reserve Cup games at the Lake Oval on a Sunday Afternoon.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      #17
      Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

      Originally posted by craigsahibee
      I turn SEN off whenever Thomas is on, or they start talking about horse racing, basketball, tennis and boxing.

      Basketball, tennis and bloody KB and his obsession with golf have me reaching for the switch.


      Cant stand the first two at the best of times, but I usually like golf. However KB and golf just brings out the worst in me for some reason. Rohan Dummet ( Australia's 51st best golf coach or something) has to be the least interesting person ever to be allowed on radio. I dont whether he's got one of KB's kids held hostage or something but puhlease! Then there's Mark Allen and his regular spot on monday mornings. I like Allen and when there's actually an interesting tournament to talk about he's great, but Kenny Spenny the third winning the Timbuktu invitational doesnt warrant a 45 minute spot.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11828

        #18
        Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

        Originally posted by Lantern
        Thomas was probably the worst coaching appointment of modern times, Rhode and Lyon notwithstanding. Any other coach worth his salt would have developed a hell of a team from the number of first round picks he had, but the fact that he didn't even develop a decent team says a lot about his coaching ability. Just looking at the debacle that is St Kilda now is a testament to the job he did. And because of his insistence on doing everything -- scouting, etc etc -- himself, he has no one to blame. No one.

        He didn't need ruckmen either. Everytime he opens his mouth to give tactical insight I have to stop myself from giggling. This guy learnt his coaching from clever or controversial cliches he got out of a book or off tv.

        The fact that he has not stopped being embroiled in lawsuits since he's left says a lot about the way he conducts his personal affairs as well.
        He did develop a good team. A team that was 1 kick from beating Port and facing a depleted Brisbane in their home city.

        The fact that they're crap now tells me Lyon can't coach as they made the top 8 3 years in a row and top 4 twice while Thomas was in charge.
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #19
          Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

          Originally posted by hujsh
          He did develop a good team. A team that was 1 kick from beating Port and facing a depleted Brisbane in their home city.

          The fact that they're crap now tells me Lyon can't coach as they made the top 8 3 years in a row and top 4 twice while Thomas was in charge.
          How St. Kilda failed to evem make a grand final with the side they had under Thomas would be one of football's great mysteries - except that the answer was obvious - Thomas couldn't coach.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27654

            #20
            Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            Basketball, tennis and bloody KB and his obsession with golf have me reaching for the switch.


            Cant stand the first two at the best of times, but I usually like golf. However KB and golf just brings out the worst in me for some reason. Rohan Dummet ( Australia's 51st best golf coach or something) has to be the least interesting person ever to be allowed on radio. I dont whether he's got one of KB's kids held hostage or something but puhlease! Then there's Mark Allen and his regular spot on monday mornings. I like Allen and when there's actually an interesting tournament to talk about he's great, but Kenny Spenny the third winning the Timbuktu invitational doesnt warrant a 45 minute spot.

            Oh and more thing SEN. If I wanted to hear Alan Jones voice I'd move to Sydney and listen to his show or hang around the Paddo public lavatories at night time. Couldnt you have found someone else to do your olympic spots?
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11828

              #21
              Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              How St. Kilda failed to evem make a grand final with the side they had under Thomas would be one of football's great mysteries - except that the answer was obvious - Thomas couldn't coach.
              Maybe, but i think he's better than Lyon
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11132

                #22
                Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

                Originally posted by hujsh
                He did develop a good team. A team that was 1 kick from beating Port and facing a depleted Brisbane in their home city.

                The fact that they're crap now tells me Lyon can't coach as they made the top 8 3 years in a row and top 4 twice while Thomas was in charge.
                What he had in spades was the players walking over hot coals for him. When you have that, you are halfway there. But he really didn't make the most of the list he developed, for a couple of key reasons: he paid no attention to the science of injury recovery (training services ), and he paid no respect to the pivotal role of the ruck work at stoppages. In hindsight, St Kilda's drafting history during the Thomas years was appalling, and after his first year in charge (when, to his credit, he did pin his faith in youth), he repeatedly went the quick fix recycled option with very little success. His record was a bit like Wallace in that it progressively regressed from 2004 until he was sacked. Really, St Kilda should have challenged hard for a premiership between 2004-2008, such is the quality of their core. But Thomas did not adequately address structural weaknesses (midfield pace, key defensive posts, tap ruckmen) during his tenure, which slowly eroded the quality of the list over time.

                Lyon took on a tough job that involved a stagnating list, and precious little quality youth in the 25-75 game bracket - that was a direct legacy of Thomas and his recruiters. Lyon has done himself no favours also going the cheap fix with the likes of Gardiner x 2, King, Dempster and Schneider, and his game plan is clearly not suited to the attacking personnel on the Saints' list. It would have been like Rocket going a purely defensive game plan when he took over the Dogs in 2005.

                It is clear that Thomas despises Eade because of Eade's media reputation as a coaching svengali and Thomas' as a tactical retard. So when his clearly more talented teams would toy with ours, he would develop a very smug exterior, and fair enough too. That is why he has so little love for the side that is coached by Eade.

                Really, he does not have to respect us, let alone love us - I actually prefer him not to do so. But if we do happen to win a premiership, rest assured it will cut him to the quick.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #23
                  Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  What he had in spades was the players walking over hot coals for him. When you have that, you are halfway there. But he really didn't make the most of the list he developed, for a couple of key reasons: he paid no attention to the science of injury recovery (training services ), and he paid no respect to the pivotal role of the ruck work at stoppages. In hindsight, St Kilda's drafting history during the Thomas years was appalling, and after his first year in charge (when, to his credit, he did pin his faith in youth), he repeatedly went the quick fix recycled option with very little success. His record was a bit like Wallace in that it progressively regressed from 2004 until he was sacked. Really, St Kilda should have challenged hard for a premiership between 2004-2008, such is the quality of their core. But Thomas did not adequately address structural weaknesses (midfield pace, key defensive posts, tap ruckmen) during his tenure, which slowly eroded the quality of the list over time.

                  Lyon took on a tough job that involved a stagnating list, and precious little quality youth in the 25-75 game bracket - that was a direct legacy of Thomas and his recruiters. Lyon has done himself no favours also going the cheap fix with the likes of Gardiner x 2, King, Dempster and Schneider, and his game plan is clearly not suited to the attacking personnel on the Saints' list. It would have been like Rocket going a purely defensive game plan when he took over the Dogs in 2005.

                  It is clear that Thomas despises Eade because of Eade's media reputation as a coaching svengali and Thomas' as a tactical retard. So when his clearly more talented teams would toy with ours, he would develop a very smug exterior, and fair enough too. That is why he has so little love for the side that is coached by Eade.

                  Really, he does not have to respect us, let alone love us - I actually prefer him not to do so. But if we do happen to win a premiership, rest assured it will cut him to the quick.
                  Interesting.

                  Rocket has no respect for Thomas, either.

                  He said Thomas would never have coached a winning side against Rocket except that Rocket had no way of stopping Thomas' weapons - meaning big forwards. Rocket was pretty sure he could always outcoach him, he just needed the cattle to let him have a shot at it.

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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    #24
                    Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    Maybe, but i think he's better than Lyon
                    And Caroline Wilson is better looking that Aranxa Sanchez-Vichario - so what? I don't want to shag either of them.

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11828

                      #25
                      Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      And Caroline Wilson is better looking that Aranxa Sanchez-Vichario - so what? I don't want to shag either of them.
                      Don't you like braces?
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • dog town
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1899

                        #26
                        Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        What he had in spades was the players walking over hot coals for him. When you have that, you are halfway there. But he really didn't make the most of the list he developed, for a couple of key reasons: he paid no attention to the science of injury recovery (training services ), and he paid no respect to the pivotal role of the ruck work at stoppages. In hindsight, St Kilda's drafting history during the Thomas years was appalling, and after his first year in charge (when, to his credit, he did pin his faith in youth), he repeatedly went the quick fix recycled option with very little success. His record was a bit like Wallace in that it progressively regressed from 2004 until he was sacked. Really, St Kilda should have challenged hard for a premiership between 2004-2008, such is the quality of their core. But Thomas did not adequately address structural weaknesses (midfield pace, key defensive posts, tap ruckmen) during his tenure, which slowly eroded the quality of the list over time.

                        Lyon took on a tough job that involved a stagnating list, and precious little quality youth in the 25-75 game bracket - that was a direct legacy of Thomas and his recruiters. Lyon has done himself no favours also going the cheap fix with the likes of Gardiner x 2, King, Dempster and Schneider, and his game plan is clearly not suited to the attacking personnel on the Saints' list. It would have been like Rocket going a purely defensive game plan when he took over the Dogs in 2005.

                        It is clear that Thomas despises Eade because of Eade's media reputation as a coaching svengali and Thomas' as a tactical retard. So when his clearly more talented teams would toy with ours, he would develop a very smug exterior, and fair enough too. That is why he has so little love for the side that is coached by Eade.

                        Really, he does not have to respect us, let alone love us - I actually prefer him not to do so. But if we do happen to win a premiership, rest assured it will cut him to the quick.
                        Brilliant summation of Thomas as a coach and his current attitude towards Eade. Still think he is worth listening to though. All recent coaches are actually.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          How St. Kilda failed to evem make a grand final with the side they had under Thomas would be one of football's great mysteries - except that the answer was obvious - Thomas couldn't coach.
                          Exactly. A blind donkey could have coached that side -- half the team were made up of top 5 picks. They should have been able to coach themselves to a premiership, but Thomas's great little theories actually meant most of those players went backwards. Some of them are unrecognisable from their draft day selves -- confident, hard, skillful players turning into second-guessing, slow, soft, clueless hacks.

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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3498

                            #28
                            Re: Turn SEN off when Thomas comes on

                            Originally posted by Sedat

                            It is clear that Thomas despises Eade because of Eade's media reputation as a coaching svengali and Thomas' as a tactical retard. So when his clearly more talented teams would toy with ours, he would develop a very smug exterior, and fair enough too. That is why he has so little love for the side that is coached by Eade.

                            Really, he does not have to respect us, let alone love us - I actually prefer him not to do so. But if we do happen to win a premiership, rest assured it will cut him to the quick.
                            That really is gold

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            And Caroline Wilson is better looking that Aranxa Sanchez-Vichario - so what? I don't want to shag either of them.
                            And so is this
                            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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