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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14983

    Dry weather footballers

    A few of us remember the Footscray teams of the 80s, notably Simon Beasley being a late out whenever it rained on Friday.

    After watching Schache last night and thinking he's a "dry weather only" footballer, who are the better examples of Bulldog players who only seem to be able to play when there is no rain about?
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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7738

    #2
    Re: Dry weather footballers

    Originally posted by Mofra
    A few of us remember the Footscray teams of the 80s, notably Simon Beasley being a late out whenever it rained on Friday.

    After watching Schache last night and thinking he's a "dry weather only" footballer, who are the better examples of Bulldog players who only seem to be able to play when there is no rain about?
    JJ and Suckling.

    Higgins, Gia and Cooney in years prior.

    I think alot of the time you'll find those players who disappear when it's raining are also those who tend to go missing when the chips are down. Picko, Boyd, Morris and Libba are examples of the opposite.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66850

      #3
      Re: Dry weather footballers

      I remember Malthouse use to only play Tony Libba when it was raining.

      We should have handled those conditions last night better, but I think in rain, the stronger more mature bodies prevail.
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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7738

        #4
        Re: Dry weather footballers

        Originally posted by bornadog
        I remember Malthouse use to only play Tony Libba when it was raining.

        We should have handled those conditions last night better, but I think in rain, the stronger more mature bodies prevail.
        We handled it incredibly poorly which would be more understandable if it werent for the fact that Carlton handled it really well. It was almost as if one team was playing in a monsoon and the other under the roof at Marvel.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14983

          #5
          Re: Dry weather footballers

          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
          JJ and Suckling.
          Suckling is a good one.
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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14983

            #6
            Re: Dry weather footballers

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            We handled it incredibly poorly which would be more understandable if it werent for the fact that Carlton handled it really well. It was almost as if one team was playing in a monsoon and the other under the roof at Marvel.
            Is that gameplan or personnel? Bont did his usual one-handed Doug Hawkins like pick-up at one stage. Conversely, Ed Richards had one of the worst games I've seen him play.
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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18047

              #7
              Re: Dry weather footballers

              Mitch Wallis. Struggles to pick up ground balls cleanly even in dry weather, last night he was no chance. Did take a nice mark though.
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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10157

                #8
                Re: Dry weather footballers

                One of Schache's best games last year was in the driving rain. I reckon it was more a case of "didn't get a kick in the first quarter so gave up" like he has been known to do.
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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21843

                  #9
                  Re: Dry weather footballers

                  Schache kicked four against the Hawks on a day that was a touch wet for a fair period and kicked three against Port in horrible conditions.

                  He's a player who needs space, not dry conditions. He's skillful, it's usually something that comes in handy when it's wet.
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                  • Ozza
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6402

                    #10
                    Re: Dry weather footballers

                    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                    JJ and Suckling.

                    Higgins, Gia and Cooney in years prior.

                    I think alot of the time you'll find those players who disappear when it's raining are also those who tend to go missing when the chips are down. Picko, Boyd, Morris and Libba are examples of the opposite.
                    The only match I recall being in the wet last year was against Port - and JJ was one of our best with 25 possession - 21 of which were kicks.

                    To others mentioning Schache - he kicked 3 goals v Port last year.

                    Yes, both were poor last night - but one good or bad game in the wet doesn't mean that is them entirely.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66850

                      #11
                      Re: Dry weather footballers

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      Schache kicked four against the Hawks on a day that was a touch wet for a fair period and kicked three against Port in horrible conditions.

                      He's a player who needs space, not dry conditions. He's skillful, it's usually something that comes in handy when it's wet.
                      He seemed to be off the ground for the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

                      I would have chucked him in the ruck and let English go forward to get Schache involved. Those goals he kicked against the Hawks were mainly when he was second rucking.
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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6402

                        #12
                        Re: Dry weather footballers

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        He seemed to be off the ground for the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

                        I would have chucked him in the ruck and let English go forward to get Schache involved. Those goals he kicked against the Hawks were mainly when he was second rucking.
                        Schache only had 57% game time yesterday.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44718

                          #13
                          Re: Dry weather footballers

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          Schache only had 57% game time yesterday.
                          Probably a sign that he should not have been selected
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                          • Ozza
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6402

                            #14
                            Re: Dry weather footballers

                            The comment from jeemak is spot on - Schache is just not suited to games where congestion is a big factor. He is really only able to get involved when he can use his aerobic attributes and his skills in more open space.

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                            • Danjul
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 1624

                              #15
                              Re: Dry weather footballers

                              Originally posted by Ozza
                              Schache only had 57% game time yesterday.
                              That’s interesting. I was wondering why I rarely saw him.

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