Always Right Match Committee thread Rd 8 vs Gold Coast Suns

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Always Right Match Committee thread Rd 8 vs Gold Coast Suns

Congrats on Porter and Gowers on their selection. Give it your all boys and we will come out with a win.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Always Right Match Committee thread Rd 8 vs Gold Coast Suns

The Gowers bashing on here is a little over the top I think. He hasn't played many games for the reasons outlined so the MC clearly share these concerns, but I think he has (when in form) good intensity and a big body that could be handy so I'm ok with the selection considering number of games coming up. He's one of ours, let's get behind him and hope he helps us to a big win. #teambilly

[comrade]

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Do you think Gowers can make it?

No, I don't and I'm not sure how the MC decides he's the one to help us win this week over the other options available to them, but I do hope he plays well enough to get selected again on merit. If he has a shocker and he keeps getting picked because Bevo is stubborn and falls for the sunk cost fallacy at times, I won't be happy.

The plus side is that the player he's replacing has done very little the past few weeks, so he doesn't need to have a blinder to make up for what we're losing.

[Bornadog]

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No, I don't and I'm not sure how the MC decides he's the one to help us win this week over the other options available to them, but I do hope he plays well enough to get selected again on merit. If he has a shocker and he keeps getting picked because Bevo is stubborn and falls for the sunk cost fallacy at times, I won't be happy.

The plus side is that the player he's replacing has done very little the past few weeks, so he doesn't need to have a blinder to make up for what we're losing.

I think he needs to kick at minimum two goals as well as lay tackles and I will be happy.

[Testekill]

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Only thing I want from Gowers is for him to stop giving away damaging frees and 50's. Just focus on the body work inside 50 and don't do anything stupid.

[Mantis]

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I think he needs to kick at minimum two goals as well as lay tackles and I will be happy.

He needs to compete in the air too. GC have 2 or 3 very good interceptors and with only Bruce as a recognized tall Gowers is going to have to compete hard in the air and then help keep the ball in our forward line... I don't think he's capable as he picks and chooses when he competes, but the MC must be confident.

And how he gets his goals will be more important than the number.

[1eyedog]

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The other risk is he's not the most determined player in our forward line when it comes to chasing tail. Hoping he can provide some pressure and be accountable.

[The bulldog tragician]

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Just on Bailey Dale. I know he has his knockers. I get very frustrated by him too. But I do think his workrate has improved a lot. I'm always surprised when I watch matches (our wins only of course) the next day that he features more than I think and there is often a crucial bit of play where he has worked quite hard to get up the ground and help. It is hard watching on TV to know sometimes - what role he is playing, where he is leading/not leading. Of course his main purpose is to kick goals .. he hasn't been doing that enough.

[GVGjr]

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I'm neutral on the Gowers inclusion, the conditions might just suit him but I'm not excited by his inclusion.

[jeemak]

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I think he needs to kick at minimum two goals as well as lay tackles and I will be happy.

Elite small forward type averages and you'll be happy?

He needs to hopefully hit the scoreboard sure, and bring his team mates into the play by getting the ball to them or creating space for them, and agreed he needs to tackle.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I think he needs to kick at minimum two goals as well as lay tackles and I will be happy.

My happiness with his performance, will not be based on whether he kicks goals.

He could not hit the scoreboard but still play an important role. Conversely he could manage 2 goals and leave me unhappy depending on what else he does.

I want him to compete, to stop GC defenders marking and also stop easy exits from our forward 50. I also want him to not concede blatant frees and especially 50 metre penalties.

I also want him to be part of a very good win.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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I'm neutral on the Gowers inclusion, the conditions might just suit him but I'm not excited by his inclusion.

Yes in all honesty he may go better in the conditions than Dale might have. I think it levels it out a bit.

[Grantysghost]

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Re Billy I want to see him using that beast of a frame and halve as many contests as he can. I remember a coach of mine telling me to get to x numbers of contests a quarter to keep it simple that's what I want from Billy in the forward half. Do some of that bullocking work, lock it in bash and crash. Yes he's limited, but he's a passionate guy and I think if we pull the right lever he could be very handy. It's probably getting close to his last chance with the mooted list size changes.

[Bullies]

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He needs to compete in the air too. GC have 2 or 3 very good interceptors and with only Bruce as a recognized tall Gowers is going to have to compete hard in the air and then help keep the ball in our forward line... I don't think he's capable as he picks and chooses when he competes, but the MC must be confident.

And how he gets his goals will be more important than the number.

The MC says he is our best on the training track. Spare me. Does MC not see the undisciplined acts of giving away stupid free kicks and flying for marks he has no hope of taking and the lack of chase out of the forward line. The opposition could leave him as a loose man on the forward line and he would still have no impact. Sorry but he has had his chances and many of them.

[Ozza]

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I don't think the Suns are a great match up for us. Last week I was supremely confident against Essendon, who I don't think are better than us in any area. The Suns are a good centre stoppage team, and we've slipped in this area, so I'm really pleased Libba has stayed in and I'm hoping he is at as many centre stoppages as possible.

If we can get our share of the clearances, I'm confident enought that we can get the territory game going to suit us, I just hope that if GCS start getting numbers back that we've learned our lessons from the carlton game.

The changes, well, I wasn't rapt with them last week, and this weeks team is not as strong as last week's either. I think we should win, but am less confident than last week. I think Gowers role needs to making either Ballard or Lukoscious accountable/reducing their intercept possesssions. If he can hit the scoreboard as well, then great, but we need him to be using his physical attributes to play a disciplined game.