Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 11166

    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

    Originally posted by G-Mo77
    I would have had one of Lloyd or Gowers in and not both as they're playing the same position.
    Originally posted by Mofra
    One player interview mentioned how Gowers works really hard to constantly present, that must have saved him. Schache would have been in otherwise (if not for concussion) as we know Schache covers serious ground.
    I think Mofra is right - Gowers is playing as an undersized second tall, a slightly different role to Lloyd.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18959

      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

      Originally posted by comrade
      I think we're missing a trick by not playing Young in some capacity, particularly up forward with Naughton injured and Schache a pariah. We trained him forward all pre-season, played him there in the pre-season games and then...nothing. Now it sounds like he's back in defence in the scratchies.

      Playing him forward provides 2 benefits. Takes the load of Bruce and it allows us to give English a chop out or push him deeper forward to stretch the defence while Young has a brief run on ball (similar to how Oscar Allen and Natanui work in tandem).
      Is he on Bevo's sh1t list? I really hope it doesn't exist.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • The Bulldogs Bite
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 11245

        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

        Originally posted by comrade
        I think we're missing a trick by not playing Young in some capacity, particularly up forward with Naughton injured and Schache a pariah. We trained him forward all pre-season, played him there in the pre-season games and then...nothing. Now it sounds like he's back in defence in the scratchies.

        Playing him forward provides 2 benefits. Takes the load of Bruce and it allows us to give English a chop out or push him deeper forward to stretch the defence while Young has a brief run on ball (similar to how Oscar Allen and Natanui work in tandem).
        If I were Young, I'd be requesting a trade at the end of the year if there was sufficient interest elsewhere.
        W00F!

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7697

          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
          If I were Young, I'd be requesting a trade at the end of the year if there was sufficient interest elsewhere.
          He's an SA boy so there is a likelihood the Crows make a play for him. Unfortunately because we haven't played him, we're unlikely to receive any compensation. What's his contract status?

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18959

            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            He's an SA boy so there is a likelihood the Crows make a play for him. Unfortunately because we haven't played him, we're unlikely to receive any compensation. What's his contract status?
            From what I can find signed for 2 extra in 2019, meaning he's out at end of 2021.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 11166

              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
              He's an SA boy so there is a likelihood the Crows make a play for him. Unfortunately because we haven't played him, we're unlikely to receive any compensation. What's his contract status?
              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              From what I can find signed for 2 extra in 2019, meaning he's out at end of 2021.
              That's it, I quit!

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              • DOG GOD
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2007
                • 6545

                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                If I were Young, I'd be requesting a trade at the end of the year if there was sufficient interest elsewhere.
                That would not surprise me one bit, and I certainly couldn’t blame him. He’s been shoved pillar to post from fwd to back, fwd to back. Poor guy doesn’t know where he is, and he’s certainly had some sort of fallout with the MC. When Gardner/Gowers gets picked ahead of you, you know you’re headed for the scrap heap. It’s very unfortunate, but it is what it is.
                I will never see #16 the same!!

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                • Rocket Science
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4852

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                  Originally posted by comrade
                  I think we're missing a trick by not playing Young in some capacity, particularly up forward with Naughton injured and Schache a pariah. We trained him forward all pre-season, played him there in the pre-season games and then...nothing. Now it sounds like he's back in defence in the scratchies.

                  Playing him forward provides 2 benefits. Takes the load of Bruce and it allows us to give English a chop out or push him deeper forward to stretch the defence while Young has a brief run on ball (similar to how Oscar Allen and Natanui work in tandem).
                  This really burns my onions.

                  The selection fun and games with Gowers, Gardner and the parade of unripe debutants pales next to what we're presumably doing - or not - with Lewis Young, unless pissing away blue chip assets while faffing around with junk stocks qualifies as a plan for player development or winning more games of football.

                  Young played 7 games in his splashy first year (2017). He's been jerked around for another 8 games in total since, despite his marking ability ranking smartly alongside our best pairs of hands in in Keath, Bruce and Naughton.

                  Tall, instinctive, highly athletic players who can slot in at both ends and if you insist, handle some ruck slack. Nah, we couldn't possibly use that skill-set.
                  BORDERLINE FLYING

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18029

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                    Originally posted by Rocket Science
                    This really burns my onions.

                    The selection fun and games with Gowers, Gardner and the parade of unripe debutants pales next to what we're presumably doing - or not - with Lewis Young, unless pissing away blue chip assets while faffing around with junk stocks qualifies as a plan for player development or winning more games of football.

                    Young played 7 games in his splashy first year (2017). He's been jerked around for another 8 games in total since, despite his marking ability ranking smartly alongside our best pairs of hands in in Keath, Bruce and Naughton.

                    Tall, instinctive, highly athletic players who can slot in at both ends and if you insist, handle some ruck slack. Nah, we couldn't possibly use that skill-set.
                    I don't mean to be facetious, but we can only assume he doesn't train as well as Gowers or Gardner.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7697

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                      Originally posted by Rocket Science
                      This really burns my onions.

                      The selection fun and games with Gowers, Gardner and the parade of unripe debutants pales next to what we're presumably doing - or not - with Lewis Young, unless pissing away blue chip assets while faffing around with junk stocks qualifies as a plan for player development or winning more games of football.

                      Young played 7 games in his splashy first year (2017). He's been jerked around for another 8 games in total since, despite his marking ability ranking smartly alongside our best pairs of hands in in Keath, Bruce and Naughton.

                      Tall, instinctive, highly athletic players who can slot in at both ends and if you insist, handle some ruck slack. Nah, we couldn't possibly use that skill-set.
                      And that's the kicker. Bevo LOVES these versatile players. It's intriguing.

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6401

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        I don't mean to be facetious, but we can only assume he doesn't train as well as Gowers or Gardner.
                        Scratch match form very poor inthe earlier weeks - not sure about the last few.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18959

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          I don't mean to be facetious, but we can only assume he doesn't train as well as Gowers or Gardner.
                          And apparently came back overweight from the covid break. Maybe he hasn't worked his way back into the good books? I can't see the logic really but Bevo does love his meritocracy.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18029

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            And apparently came back overweight from the covid break. Maybe he hasn't worked his way back into the good books? I can't see the logic really but Bevo does love his meritocracy.
                            He wasn't on his Pat Malone there.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14950

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              And apparently came back overweight from the covid break. Maybe he hasn't worked his way back into the good books? I can't see the logic really but Bevo does love his meritocracy.
                              In the long run, rewarding guys whoi haven;t trained as hard as others would be counter-productive.

                              We just don't know, we don't have keen track watchers like years ago, let alone onder the hub model.
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10142

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 9 Vs Richmond 2020

                                I'm really surprised we haven't seen Lew Young this season as well, especially after Schache got taken out of the team. His exposed form as a forward would suggest he would be a better aerial threat than Gowers and La Young if nothing else, and I don't think we would lose much on the ground.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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