Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27658

    #16
    Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

    Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
    One thing I WISH I could learn...how to post photos on Woof. I attempted to post a humorous photo of myself wearing a Bulldogs mask. It appeared sideways and I had to hastily delete it, thinking who am I to ever criticise players when I can’t get this basic fundamental right.
    Post it. Someone who knows what they are doing (ie, not me, probably BAD) can repost it properly.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • whythelongface
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2007
      • 4511

      #17
      Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

      Originally posted by westbulldog
      1. Bailey Williams increasingly shows poise and skill in his game.
      2. Vandermeer will be a player, I keep saying that.
      3. Bruce is unsuited to a game in the wet, didn't get a kick, didn't take a mark and didn't trouble the scoreboard.
      Bruce was our only tall target for most of the game. He contested, went in hard provided support for his team mates, worked his backside off. He played a real team game and should not be judged on his stats alone. You are right the conditions didn’t suit him but I thought he was terrific.

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      • Ozza
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Mar 2008
        • 6402

        #18
        Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

        Originally posted by whythelongface
        Bruce was our only tall target for most of the game. He contested, went in hard provided support for his team mates, worked his backside off. He played a real team game and should not be judged on his stats alone. You are right the conditions didn’t suit him but I thought he was terrific.
        I wouldn't go as far to say terrific, but generally speaking I'm on board with you insofar as his effort was good. Against Carlton I thought Josh's effort and body language was poor, but tonight I felt like he 'got it' that he wouldn't get chances to cash in, so just had to present, bring the ball down...and get some follow up handballs and knock ons. I can cop that. When you have a quite one, keep competing and creating something for others.

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        • SonofScray
          Coaching Staff
          • Apr 2008
          • 4242

          #19
          Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

          Originally posted by Ozza
          I wouldn't go as far to say terrific, but generally speaking I'm on board with you insofar as his effort was good. Against Carlton I thought Josh's effort and body language was poor, but tonight I felt like he 'got it' that he wouldn't get chances to cash in, so just had to present, bring the ball down...and get some follow up handballs and knock ons. I can cop that. When you have a quite one, keep competing and creating something for others.
          The stint in the ruck woke him up a bit I think, seemed to compete better once he got in the thick of it there. I think he was poor overall, but he has more to offer. We'll see his best soon enough.
          Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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          • Ozza
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Mar 2008
            • 6402

            #20
            Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

            Originally posted by SonofScray
            The stint in the ruck woke him up a bit I think, seemed to compete better once he got in the thick of it there. I think he was poor overall, but he has more to offer. We'll see his best soon enough.
            Good call on the stint in the ruck. Reckon English needed that to gather himself. Tim was noticeably better after a chance for a breather and perhaps time to reassess/get some advice from S King. English was then really important in nullifying Witts' influence and also getting to contest deep in defence to help.

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            • whythelongface
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 4511

              #21
              Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

              Originally posted by Ozza
              I wouldn't go as far to say terrific, but generally speaking I'm on board with you insofar as his effort was good. Against Carlton I thought Josh's effort and body language was poor, but tonight I felt like he 'got it' that he wouldn't get chances to cash in, so just had to present, bring the ball down...and get some follow up handballs and knock ons. I can cop that. When you have a quite one, keep competing and creating something for others.
              Yeah you are right I probably got a bit carried away!! More trying to emphasise the point that his efforts were team oriented and he did this well.

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              • AshMac
                WOOF Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 1712

                #22
                Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                1. A really good win In a tough slog with a number of players down on form
                2. Caleb Daniel has to be just about the safest pair of hands in the AFL
                3. Got a glimpse of Croziers beast mode and it is delightful to watch
                The dam wall has busted!

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66843

                  #23
                  Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                  1. We can win in the wet
                  2. I learnt I do not understand when and why HTB is given
                  3. I can enjoy a tough, contested game even though there aren't many goals kicked.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • bulldogsthru&thru
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • May 2011
                    • 7735

                    #24
                    Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                    The umpiring, mostly in the last quarter was awful. There were about 4 non htb calls against the suns in their forward 50, but then Libba got pinned when he had no chance to get rid of it in our forward 50. Same with another call on Caleb. Although some players still haven’t clicked on that you need to look like you’re trying to get rid of it. Vanda was an example and he was about to get pinned but luckily Bailey Smith dipped it from his grasp and it was play on. I loved that from Bailey.

                    There were also horrible non calls on Wallis (in the back), Caleb in a head lock and a blatant throw in Ben King. I never say umpires affect results and it still wouldn’t have but there was some dubious umpiring last night

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66843

                      #25
                      Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                      The umpiring, mostly in the last quarter was awful. There were about 4 non htb calls against the suns in their forward 50, but then Libba got pinned when he had no chance to get rid of it in our forward 50. Same with another call on Caleb. Although some players still haven’t clicked on that you need to look like you’re trying to get rid of it. Vanda was an example and he was about to get pinned but luckily Bailey Smith dipped it from his grasp and it was play on. I loved that from Bailey.

                      There were also horrible non calls on Wallis (in the back), Caleb in a head lock and a blatant throw in Ben King. I never say umpires affect results and it still wouldn’t have but there was some dubious umpiring last night
                      The thing is umpires are confused too, because HQ doesn't know how to introduce rules and change interpretations, let alone mid season.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • westbulldog
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1828

                        #26
                        Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                        Originally posted by whythelongface
                        Bruce was our only tall target for most of the game. He contested, went in hard provided support for his team mates, worked his backside off. He played a real team game and should not be judged on his stats alone. You are right the conditions didn’t suit him but I thought he was terrific.
                        Tongue in cheek...if the whole team had those stats they would all be terrific ?

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14979

                          #27
                          Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                          Originally posted by westbulldog
                          Tongue in cheek...if the whole team had those stats they would all be terrific ?
                          Yes, because Bruce's opponent was scoreless and that would have been an incredible effort from our defenders...
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #28
                            Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                            3. We needed an ugly scrappy win
                            2. Our back line was immense
                            1. Said this last year ( they didn’t win another game after I said this) but Gold Coast will win one before GWS

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                            • Remi Moses
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 14785

                              #29
                              Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                              The umpiring, mostly in the last quarter was awful. There were about 4 non htb calls against the suns in their forward 50, but then Libba got pinned when he had no chance to get rid of it in our forward 50. Same with another call on Caleb. Although some players still haven’t clicked on that you need to look like you’re trying to get rid of it. Vanda was an example and he was about to get pinned but luckily Bailey Smith dipped it from his grasp and it was play on. I loved that from Bailey.

                              There were also horrible non calls on Wallis (in the back), Caleb in a head lock and a blatant throw in Ben King. I never say umpires affect results and it still wouldn’t have but there was some dubious umpiring last night
                              Agree entirely. That last quarter officiating was perplexing and we copped the worst of it

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11198

                                #30
                                Re: Three things you have learned-round 8 v the Suns

                                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                                The umpiring, mostly in the last quarter was awful. There were about 4 non htb calls against the suns in their forward 50, but then Libba got pinned when he had no chance to get rid of it in our forward 50. Same with another call on Caleb. Although some players still haven’t clicked on that you need to look like you’re trying to get rid of it. Vanda was an example and he was about to get pinned but luckily Bailey Smith dipped it from his grasp and it was play on. I loved that from Bailey.

                                There were also horrible non calls on Wallis (in the back), Caleb in a head lock and a blatant throw in Ben King. I never say umpires affect results and it still wouldn’t have but there was some dubious umpiring last night
                                Also the sliding one on Suckling, that hasn't been a free to the player that goes to ground for years, was Darren Goldspink umpiring?

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