Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

[Bornadog]

Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

Last year Bruce kicked over 2 goals in 5 games - 6,4,3,3,3 and a total of 36 from 22 games (average 1.5)
Schache kicked over 2 goals in 5 games - 4,3,3,3,3 and a total of 23 from 13 games (average 1.7)

its a shame that Schache can’t kick goals like Bruce can.

Still trying to understand the enthusiasm

Bruce also top 5 in contested marks last year

[Danjul]

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Bruce also top 5 in contested marks last year

But the reality is Goals win games.

Schache and Dale have proven that they can kick them.

Surely some experienced adult can organise things so these kids can just do their thing.

[CarnTheScray]

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But the reality is Goals win games.

Schache and Dale have proven that they can kick them.

Surely some experienced adult can organise things so these kids can just do their thing.

Dale has proven he can kick goals against poor sides or when we are 50 points down when there's no competition.

[Danjul]

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Dale has proven he can kick goals against poor sides or when we are 50 points down when there's no competition.

I can’t find any evidence to refute your claim ...

.......because over the last three years we have often been 50 points down and have only beaten poor sides .

But I cannot blame the players for that disgraceful state of affairs.

[Grantysghost]

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I can’t find any evidence to refute your claim ...

.......because over the last three years we have often been 50 points down and have only beaten poor sides .

But I cannot blame the players for that disgraceful state of affairs.

I don't understand the large margins of recent times. 2015 and 16 I felt we were always close or in games (memory might be wrong). I guess that's a bit to do with personnel and maybe a transition phase from Maca to Bevo.
I don't agree the players escape blame. I think the truth lies somewhere in between.

[Danjul]

Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

I don't understand the large margins of recent times. 2015 and 16 I felt we were always close or in games (memory might be wrong). I guess that's a bit to do with personnel and maybe a transition phase from Maca to Bevo.
I don't agree the players escape blame. I think the truth lies somewhere in between.

In 2015 and 2016 I usually expected to win but the reality was luck could play a part in the form of injuries or opposing champions having a great game. People looked forward to the games and what they might be building towards.

Now, after 2018 and particularly Carlton smashing our experimental lineup last year, supporters have been inoculated with doubt. Hence the thread.

[1eyedog]

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I don't understand the large margins of recent times. 2015 and 16 I felt we were always close or in games (memory might be wrong). I guess that's a bit to do with personnel and maybe a transition phase from Maca to Bevo.
I don't agree the players escape blame. I think the truth lies somewhere in between.

We got absolutely toweled up by a lowly Freo in the last round of 2016. Admittedly we were without Libba and Macrae.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

I can’t find any evidence to refute your claim ...

.......because over the last three years we have often been 50 points down and have only beaten poor sides .

But I cannot blame the players for that disgraceful state of affairs.

The players have to been accountable for their performance
Buck stops with the coach no doubt , but the players have to be accountable also

[Remi Moses]

Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

We got absolutely toweled up by a lowly Freo in the last round of 2016. Admittedly we were without Libba and Macrae.

We lost to Melbourne in 2015 also . Lost to stkilda after being 11 goals up
Results happen in an even competition.

[Danjul]

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The players have to been accountable for their performance
Buck stops with the coach no doubt , but the players have to be accountable also

Purely from memory so correct any errors:

in the last half of 2017 we were in the top half of the ladder for 1 week.
In 2018 we were bottom 5 All season.
in 2019 we were bottom half of the competition from round 4 until the win over Adelaide popped us into the eight for another round of player bashing .

And this season? How have we done against the opposition? No better, and some of the bad bits are like watching a video loop.

We have had 4 years of blaming soft players who not bringing 100% to the game. For me it ‘doesn’t cut it ‘.

[1eyedog]

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We lost to Melbourne in 2015 also . Lost to stkilda after being 11 goals up
Results happen in an even competition.

That St. Kilda game very nearly broke me. It's one team that we have struggled with over the past 10-15 years.

[GVGjr]

Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

That St. Kilda game very nearly broke me. It's one team that we have struggled with over the past 10-15 years.

Thanks for the inspiration. I'll start a thread over the weekend comparing the two teams in recent years
We've typically performed a lot better over the season but I think they might be a slight leader in head to head games in the last few years

I'm interested in their approach with the rucks where they added Ryder to support Marshall and backed them both up by getting Ryan Abbott from Geelong. Our approach is quite a contrast in that we've preferred English with more ad hoc support
It might be an interesting comparison.

[Happy Days]

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That St. Kilda game very nearly broke me. It's one team that we have struggled with over the past 10-15 years.

That game was my fault. I spent the entire week on here bagging Jack Billings, and also turned up to the ground at the end of the second quarter, missing seeing us get up by 9 goals but in just enough time to see Clay do his ACL and see us concede 11 or so in a row.

So sorry man. Glad you hung around.

[comrade]

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That game was my fault. I spent the entire week on here bagging Jack Billings, and also turned up to the ground at the end of the second quarter, missing seeing us get up by 9 goals but in just enough time to see Clay do his ACL and see us concede 11 or so in a row.

So sorry man. Glad you hung around.

That game was a sacrifice to the footy gods that enabled 2016 to happen.

[Grantysghost]

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Thanks for the inspiration. I'll start a thread over the weekend comparing the two teams in recent years
We've typically performed a lot better over the season but I think they might be a slight leader in head to head games in the last few years

I'm interested in their approach with the rucks where they added Ryder to support Marshall and backed them both up by getting Ryan Abbott from Geelong. Our approach is quite a contrast in that we've preferred English with more ad hoc support
It might be an interesting comparison.

I remember under Thomas in the Rocket years they used to try and intimidate us physically with guys like Gehrig and Hamill, and I think unfortunately it worked. Never forget the day we made a semi stand when Gia took out Kosi on the wing at Docklands. It would be interesting to break down their hold over us in recent memory.