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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18963

    #31
    Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

    Originally posted by Ozza
    We were down 36-28 in clearances and the quality of Geelong's were significantly better - especially on the mutiple occasions they just took the ball out of the ruck.
    There needs to be better stats than just pure clearances. If you get it, bomb it into the 50 under pressure and are scored against coast to coast it still counts.
    Clearances to advantage something like that.
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66724

      #32
      Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

      Originally posted by Ozza
      We were down 36-28 in clearances and the quality of Geelong's were significantly better - especially on the mutiple occasions they just took the ball out of the ruck.
      Yet Hitouts were 49 to 13.

      I don't agree with Dunkley in the ruck, but it is not the reason we lost.
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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11179

        #33
        Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

        Originally posted by Ozza
        We were down 36-28 in clearances and the quality of Geelong's were significantly better - especially on the mutiple occasions they just took the ball out of the ruck.
        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        There needs to be better stats than just pure clearances. If you get it, bomb it into the 50 under pressure and are scored against coast to coast it still counts.
        Clearances to advantage something like that.
        If you have a look at the post BAD shared in the Football Analysis thread it shows how Geelong didn't really score from their clearances. They scored against us from defensive half intercepts, the same way we like to score.

        Geelong are just about the best clearance side in the league, we are bottom half. We were always likely to lose the clearances regardless of who was rucking. What we did well was limit the hurt factor of the cats clearances. Clearly we fell down in other areas though.

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        • Happy Days
          Hall of Fame
          • May 2008
          • 10143

          #34
          Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

          Just for a point of reference, check out what Carlton give their fans as a scratch match summary;



          Detailed reports on every player, multiple highlight videos and player focused packages. Gotta reiterate how disappointed I am in what we've put out over the time in the hub.
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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7697

            #35
            Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            If you have a look at the post BAD shared in the Football Analysis thread it shows how Geelong didn't really score from their clearances. They scored against us from defensive half intercepts, the same way we like to score.

            Geelong are just about the best clearance side in the league, we are bottom half. We were always likely to lose the clearances regardless of who was rucking. What we did well was limit the hurt factor of the cats clearances. Clearly we fell down in other areas though.
            I suppose it may not be the reason we lost but at the end of the day it's putting us on the back foot at every ruck contest. Conceding the ruck doesn't really send a positive message to take the game on. It's like every ruck contest we're in self-preservation mode rather than looking to take the game on.

            How we fix this without giving up pace around the ground is the challenge given the players Bevo is looking for to play ruck don't exactly grow on trees. At this point, I'd prefer to play a pure ruck and give up pace around the ground, rather than have Dunkley sacrificed.

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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 11179

              #36
              Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
              I suppose it may not be the reason we lost but at the end of the day it's putting us on the back foot at every ruck contest. Conceding the ruck doesn't really send a positive message to take the game on. It's like every ruck contest we're in self-preservation mode rather than looking to take the game on.

              How we fix this without giving up pace around the ground is the challenge given the players Bevo is looking for to play ruck don't exactly grow on trees. At this point, I'd prefer to play a pure ruck and give up pace around the ground, rather than have Dunkley sacrificed.
              I largely agree. The current setup can't be a long term tactic, we need to come up with something else next season if English isn't going to significantly improve his competitiveness in the ruck.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66724

                #37
                Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Just for a point of reference, check out what Carlton give their fans as a scratch match summary;



                Detailed reports on every player, multiple highlight videos and player focused packages. Gotta reiterate how disappointed I am in what we've put out over the time in the hub.
                Yeah I agree.

                I sent a DM to the communications manager a few weeks ago about the lack of information and he never bothered to respond.
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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18030

                  #38
                  Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  Just for a point of reference, check out what Carlton give their fans as a scratch match summary;



                  Detailed reports on every player, multiple highlight videos and player focused packages. Gotta reiterate how disappointed I am in what we've put out over the time in the hub.
                  Jesus, puts our 'efforts' to shame. We're lucky to get a few real time tweets and a brief summary where 3 or 4 players are mentioned.

                  And if we really strike it rich, we come up against a club who films their scratchies and actually cares about keeping its supporters informed and we get to see our players in the background (usually doing something wrong but its something).
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                  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8962

                    #39
                    Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                    Originally posted by comrade
                    Jesus, puts our 'efforts' to shame. We're lucky to get a few real time tweets and a brief summary where 3 or 4 players are mentioned.

                    And if we really strike it rich, we come up against a club who films their scratchies and actually cares about keeping its supporters informed and we get to see our players in the background (usually doing something wrong but its something).
                    Is this because of a lack of resources with COVID restructuring? Maybe Carlton have spent their allocations in a different way to ours.
                    Not trying to justify whether we've got it right or not, just that maybe there are other factors. Prior to this year, I thought we got pretty good VFL reports each week.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14953

                      #40
                      Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                      Back to Cordy - straight in for Wood? Seems a reasonable swap.
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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15312

                        #41
                        Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Back to Cordy - straight in for Wood? Seems a reasonable swap.
                        If Duyrea was ready to go, would you look at him rather than Cordy?
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14953

                          #42
                          Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          If Duyrea was ready to go, would you look at him rather than Cordy?
                          WCE is the one team where I'd like to have three defenders capable on talls. Probably the Saints too.
                          Duryea is best 22 when fit but he'll be rusty after a long layoff.
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44645

                            #43
                            Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Yet Hitouts were 49 to 13.

                            I don't agree with Dunkley in the ruck, but it is not the reason we lost.
                            I suspect we are missing him as a genuine ball winning midfielder though
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                            • Mitcha
                              Draftee
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 726

                              #44
                              Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Yeah I agree.

                              I sent a DM to the communications manager a few weeks ago about the lack of information and he never bothered to respond.
                              He may have been busy filming quality content such as showing our players capability of being able to draw a Hawk or an Eagle, spare me.

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                              • Vred
                                Senior Player
                                • Nov 2018
                                • 1294

                                #45
                                Re: Cordy shines in scratch match

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                Just for a point of reference, check out what Carlton give their fans as a scratch match summary;



                                Detailed reports on every player, multiple highlight videos and player focused packages. Gotta reiterate how disappointed I am in what we've put out over the time in the hub.
                                What we put out is actually pathetic compared to this.
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