Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66687

    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

    Originally posted by mjp
    I tried to explain it in my "I hate this matchup" thread...

    I don't like the way we match up with the Saints. I know that in theory we could win...I just don't think we will. Honestly, I would rather play West Coast or Geelong or Brisbane or even Richmond than the Saints. Our zoning style of defense doesn't work vs them. We have an amazing ability to let outside mid/forward types (and the Saints have a billion of them) to have 25 possession + 3-goal games...

    Oh yeah. And our effort in games when we are playing the 'top' sides has been pretty much immaculate. Versus the mid rangers who the players think we are better than? Not so much...

    Like I said, I am dreading it. I don't want to be a downer on everyone btw (and usually try not to be) but this game does not have me excited to strap myself in to watch it...
    Good to hear Bevo saying he has a plan b and c
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    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • MrMahatma
      Coaching Staff
      • Sep 2007
      • 3964

      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

      Originally posted by mjp
      I tried to explain it in my "I hate this matchup" thread...

      I don't like the way we match up with the Saints. I know that in theory we could win...I just don't think we will. Honestly, I would rather play West Coast or Geelong or Brisbane or even Richmond than the Saints. Our zoning style of defense doesn't work vs them. We have an amazing ability to let outside mid/forward types (and the Saints have a billion of them) to have 25 possession + 3-goal games...

      Oh yeah. And our effort in games when we are playing the 'top' sides has been pretty much immaculate. Versus the mid rangers who the players think we are better than? Not so much...

      Like I said, I am dreading it. I don't want to be a downer on everyone btw (and usually try not to be) but this game does not have me excited to strap myself in to watch it...
      I feel 100% the same. We match up poorly and I just reckon we get rolled.

      I mean, I reckon we’re a better chance of winning the flag than them, but that they’re a team that’ll beat us.

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      • kruder
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2011
        • 3856

        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

        Definitely think we are going in with a small forward down, worried about our scoring power with the side selected.

        Will be interesting to see how they use Daniel and JJ in this, I think we will see them forward at stages potentially swapping with Richards and Smith.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18027

          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

          Originally posted by mjp
          I tried to explain it in my "I hate this matchup" thread...

          I don't like the way we match up with the Saints. I know that in theory we could win...I just don't think we will. Honestly, I would rather play West Coast or Geelong or Brisbane or even Richmond than the Saints. Our zoning style of defense doesn't work vs them. We have an amazing ability to let outside mid/forward types (and the Saints have a billion of them) to have 25 possession + 3-goal games...

          Oh yeah. And our effort in games when we are playing the 'top' sides has been pretty much immaculate. Versus the mid rangers who the players think we are better than? Not so much...

          Like I said, I am dreading it. I don't want to be a downer on everyone btw (and usually try not to be) but this game does not have me excited to strap myself in to watch it...
          Besides Carlton, we didn’t really lose to a side below us all season and effort overall seemed fine. I don’t think effort will be a problem tomorrow in a cut throat final.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • DOG GOD
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2007
            • 6544

            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

            For mine it will come down to a few certain points..

            1) we HAVE to win the midfield stoppages.

            2) we HAVE to kick more goals than points

            3) we CANNOT allow players like billing’s, Steele, Ross and Hill to kick multiple goals or get 25+ possessions.
            I will never see #16 the same!!

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5641

              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

              I'm worried after seeing the aerial shots of the Gabba tonight, that our zone will stretch too wide on the large ground and they will be able to cut through it. We are so dependent on pressuring the ball carrier so that they can't move the ball quickly and effectively - I'm hopeful that if we can keep the pressure up, we can limit those goals. I would almost guarantee that the Saints get at least one or two goals with speed out the back, but I'm hopeful it is only one or two.

              The Saints played us well in Round 2 but our game has been refined since then, and I think we are ready to match them. Unless they decide to scratch our faces and the umpires forget that their job is to control the game.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66687

                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                Originally posted by jazzadogs
                I'm worried after seeing the aerial shots of the Gabba tonight, that our zone will stretch too wide on the large ground and they will be able to cut through it. We are so dependent on pressuring the ball carrier so that they can't move the ball quickly and effectively - I'm hopeful that if we can keep the pressure up, we can limit those goals. I would almost guarantee that the Saints get at least one or two goals with speed out the back, but I'm hopeful it is only one or two.

                The Saints played us well in Round 2 but our game has been refined since then, and I think we are ready to match them. Unless they decide to scratch our faces and the umpires forget that their job is to control the game.
                Same size as SCG and 5m shorter in length than the G
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                • The Bulldogs Bite
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11244

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                  Can we stop pretending St Kilda are one of the best sides in it?

                  We might lose, and they've shown they can play good footy, but Christ they're hardly worth fearing.
                  W00F!

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66687

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                    Can we stop pretending St Kilda are one of the best sides in it?

                    We might lose, and they've shown they can play good footy, but Christ they're hardly worth fearing.
                    They played well in the first half of the season but they were not impressive in the second half.
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                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • westbulldog
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1822

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                      Can we stop pretending St Kilda are one of the best sides in it?

                      We might lose, and they've shown they can play good footy, but Christ they're hardly worth fearing.
                      Agreed and well said anyone would think they are top of the ladder and undefeated for 3 years.

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                      • BornInDroopSt'54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 5254

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        Billy still a massive chance named as an emergency!
                        I have a feeling Billy will play a rambunctious role this campaign. His physicality may be required.
                        Footscray Football Republic.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10139

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                          Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                          I have a feeling Billy will play a rambunctious role this campaign. His physicality may be required.
                          Get that outta here.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • Jeanette54
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1272

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                            I have just watched the Freemantle game again, which is good to sit back and watch, once you know we have won. It gives you a chance to quietly observe the contributors, and some of the less obvious things that they do. Conversely you note the shortcomings and less obvious clangers.

                            After this I am more confident about today's outcome. It was very much about a total team effort, but with the standout effort being Lachie Hunter. Also the Saints need to beware Josh Bruce. Signs are he is back, big time. And against his old team, could just prove to be their nemesis.
                            The truth will set you free,
                            but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15302

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                              Originally posted by Jeanette54
                              I have just watched the Freemantle game again, which is good to sit back and watch, once you know we have won. It gives you a chance to quietly observe the contributors, and some of the less obvious things that they do. Conversely you note the shortcomings and less obvious clangers.

                              After this I am more confident about today's outcome. It was very much about a total team effort, but with the standout effort being Lachie Hunter. Also the Saints need to beware Josh Bruce. Signs are he is back, big time. And against his old team, could just prove to be their nemesis.
                              Plus Bruce coming off a high of seeing his second child being born?
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • SquirrelGrip
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1523

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 1 of the finals vs Eagles or Saints

                                Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                                I have a feeling Billy will play a rambunctious role this campaign. His physicality may be required.
                                I’ve been scouring the AFL site - where do I find stats on rambunctiousness? I’m sure Billy would be top 3 in the league.
                                "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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