Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 vs West Coast Eagles 2021

[jazzadogs]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

Our sudden stance on JJ is a mite confusing ...

We're collectively guilty of lax defensive application but we make an example of perhaps our best counter-attacking weapon not named Daniel at the precise moment the game's being adjudicated further in his favour. Not to mention the logic of insisting an attacking run-and-carry type start focusing on the one-percenters, or something.

Not suggesting JJ's immune from being held accountable in the name of better two-way play though I felt he showed more willingness last year to get his hands dirty but where's the value in using your Ferrari to go bush-bashing?

If we can't utilise him in the current go-at-all-costs climate you'd reckon 17 other teams could.

Is it really 'sudden'? JJ has been trialled all over the ground in an attempt to find a position where his attacking football does not come at the detriment of the team defence. He was mediocre in most other roles (wing, half-forward) and is clearly not meeting his metrics in defence (holding position in zone, winning 1v1s, coming off his man when needed).

Bevo loves a guy who follows instructions and plays his role - hence Gardner, Scott getting games ahead of more talented players. I am not always a fan of the approach, but I understand it given the importance of our team-defence.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

Were is the meters gain stat from last year on JJ compared to meters gain from 2016.

May be that run hasn't come often enough.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

Found the stat:
2016: ranked 7 493
2017: ranked 39 407
2018: ranked 45 383
2019: ranked 33 425
2020: ranked 110 278

Work rate looks down to me.

[Danjul]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

Found the stat:
2016: ranked 7 493
2017: ranked 39 407
2018: ranked 45 383
2019: ranked 33 425
2020: ranked 110 278

Work rate looks down to me.

shorter quarters? 2020 16 minutes. And better team? 2016 - finished 7th. 2018 finished 14? th

[hujsh]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

shorter quarters? 2020 16 minutes. And better team? 2016 - finished 7th. 2018 finished 14? th

If you adjust for full length quarters it's just shy of 350m last year.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

I can't see West forcing his way in after spending the game on the bench. Not his fault I know, but if his form prior to yesterday wasn't good enough to make the 22, I can't see how he has a stronger case now. McNeil wasn't great, but he wasn't awful and it was his first game.
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9 possessions; 8 clangers; 1 goal - if that was Walllis/Dale/Bruce/Gardiner we would be calling for his head and demanding he never plays for the RWB again.

That said, we won; its his first game. He gets a free pass, but I would suggest that West would provide better output at this stage.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

9 possessions; 8 clangers; 1 goal - if that was Walllis/Dale/Bruce/Gardiner we would be calling for his head and demanding he never plays for the RWB again.

That said, we won; its his first game. He gets a free pass, but I would suggest that West would provide better output at this stage.

Agree. West was very unlucky to miss and prefer his hardness against WCE.

[comrade]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

Agree. West was very unlucky to miss and prefer his hardness against WCE.

Yep, McNeil obviously worked his butt off over pre-season and got rewarded with selection. Has had a taste now but he’s not quite there. Needs to bang the door down at VFL level and then come back in.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

BB, It was probably the 2nd best game Bruce has played for us. No chance he gets dropped

Second best game or not. He can’t kick straight and I think we don’t need the extra third tall. I would go with a West as I recon it’s a better balance for us. Yep he took a couple of hood clunks Diwali the line but if Bruce wasn’t in the side Naughton would be that guy

[1eyedog]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

In Wood
Out Scott

Agreed one game in the 2s and straight in.

[jeemak]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 vs West Coast Eagles 2021

Either seniors or twos West has to play this week, and I reckon it will be with Footscray.

I'm wondering how we're going to line up to ensure McGovern and Barrass have minimal impact. Do we leave out McNeil, bring in Wood and have one of Scott or Dale play a role across half forward?

[Jeanette54]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 vs West Coast Eagles 2021

Woofers seem to agree we can't have three talls (Bruce, Naughton and English) running around the forward line, but the West Coast Turkeys seem fine with Darling, Kennedy and Allen. Surely we must bring in an additional tall defender to cope with these guys. Could this be Cordy's recall moment, or is there another option we could explore ?

[Before I Die]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 vs West Coast Eagles 2021

Woofers seem to agree we can't have three talls (Bruce, Naughton and English) running around the forward line, but the West Coast Turkeys seem fine with Darling, Kennedy and Allen. Surely we must bring in an additional tall defender to cope with these guys. Could this be Cordy's recall moment, or is there another option we could explore ?

If you count English for us as a tall Forward then you need to add Vardy in for West Coke.

I think adding Wood will be enough. If necessary we could throw one of our tall forwards back. Hopefully it is West Coke that are forced into this position.

[Ozza]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 Vs west Coast Eagles 2021

Big fork in the road moment for JJ. He's been living off 2016 for a long while.
He can either take on board the feedback and become a real asset, or his career will fizzle out.

Wasn't he third in a B&F?

[Ozza]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 2 vs West Coast Eagles 2021

I don't really see us making a change this week. I certainly don't see why Bruce or Scott would be suggested.

McNeil was certainly our weakest performer on Friday, but first game, and playing in what became quite a busy forward line once Collingwood made the game very defensive, I would be fine with him playing again. My only thoughts are whether we feel we need Wood in the side to help with the Eagles aerial strength.